[Chaotic Kittie]

Encountered a few terms that I don't understand...

Pre bend, Unison bend, Grace note, microtonal bends...

Also, what is the difference between a picked slide and a legato slide? =S
And the difference between "hand vibrato" and "wide hand vibrato" :O

[randomaire]

New to me also, now you got me curious.

[allthumbs]

Originally Posted by Chaotic Kittie

Encountered a few terms that I don't understand...

Pre bend, Unison bend, Grace note, micro tonal bends...

Also, what is the difference between a picked slide and a legato slide? =S
And the difference between "hand vibrato" and "wide hand vibrato" :O

Prebend= bend string first before picking.
unison bend= 2 strings bent at same time.
Grace notes ave several meanings. The most common is a short note played before or leading into a note.
micro tonal bends= bends less than a 1/4 tone.
Picked slide = picking the note at the end of the slide
legato slide = not picking the note where the slide stops.
Hand vibrato is is just your normal vibrato- B.B. King
wider hand vibrato is slower, wider movement of the string your doing the vibrato on.- Eric Clapton.

Where is fretsource when you need him.

[wjp01908]

I was just about to pitch in there AT but you beat me to it.

What you said apart from a unison bend - I thought this was a bend where you bring up the pitch of a lower string so it is in unison with a higher one struck at the same time.

Hard to explain with words

e------------------------
b--------5--------5------
g--------7--B/U--(9)-----
d------------------------
a------------------------
E------------------------

Both strings end up sounding an "e"

Am I making any sense at all

[Chaotic Kittie]

Originally Posted by wjp01908

I was just about to pitch in there AT but you beat me to it.

What you said apart from a unison bend - I thought this was a bend where you bring up the pitch of a lower string so it is in unison with a higher one struck at the same time.

Hard to explain with words

e------------------------
b--------5--------5------
g--------7--B/U--(9)-----
d------------------------
a------------------------
E------------------------

Both strings end up sounding an "e"

Am I making any sense at all

That sounds more logical, when I compare it to the tab I'm reading, thanks!
And lots of thanks to you too AT!

[OldG]

I can reply on a couple of those without reaching for 'Google'...

Pre bend, bend the string before you play it - then pick it and let the bend down, like bending in reverse... it sounds a bit like a 'sigh'

unison bend, two or more strings picked and bent at the same time - sounds great with a bit of overdrive to really make it cry.

To get an idea of what I'm talkin' about, try bending the D and G sting together at the 14th fret (1/2 tone should do it, making sure you really 'feel' the bend) letting them down and follow by picking the G string at the 12th and apply a fast vibrato - instant rock/blues lick for ya!

As for the rest, I'm hoping someone will fill us in, as I'd like to read and learn about them here rather than search the net...

*oops, took to long typing but hey, i'll post it anyways*

[OldG]

I just searched for the unison bend, and general opinion goes with the explaination Will gave. Knew I shoulda googled before I posted

[Chaotic Kittie]

OldG: when bending 2 strings at the same time, do you use 2 fingers for it or just 1? :o

[Fretsource]

Originally Posted by allthumbs

Where is fretsource when you need him.

Hey AT - You're the man to answer that kind of question.
I'd agree with most of those definitions (except a couple I didn't know, for which I'll gratefully take your word) and the one about the unison bend. I agree with WJP about that.

And I assume microtonal bend means by any amount smaller than a semitone (half step) rather than a quarter tone.

[wjp01908]

Hi CK

I would use 2 fingers to bend 2 strings usually the middle and ring fingers if I can.

If I need to use the ring and little finger, I generally try to get the others in behind to support the bend.

That said, I use 10`s on a strat type guitar - your own guitar may be a little less "tight".

Will

[OldG]

Originally Posted by Chaotic Kittie

OldG: when bending 2 strings at the same time, do you use 2 fingers for it or just 1? :o

Just one finger does it for me,I try not to bunch my fingers up when I don't have to - as my 42 year old fingers need all the help they can get to move about at a decent rate.

On that riff I posted I use my ring finger for the bend -although I do play 009's and have used it for a few years now...

[Chaotic Kittie]

Another one I'm wondering about... what does it mean when it says -4-5-4- and a ( under those three (from the 4 to the next 4)? It's not a trill, so I don't understand what to do with it...

[allthumbs]

Originally Posted by Fretsource

Hey AT - You're the man to answer that kind of question.
I'd agree with most of those definitions (except a couple I didn't know, for which I'll gratefully take your word) and the one about the unison bend. I agree with WJP about that.

And I assume microtonal bend means by any amount smaller than a semitone (half step) rather than a quarter tone.

I do beleave your right about the unison bend fret. That jogged my memory. The 1/4 tone was part of a quote concerning micro tonal scales that Vai has played. I have never heard the tem before used in tabs.

[Fretsource]

Kittie, Are those numbers frets? Looks like a quick hammer on/pull off to me.

[Fretsource]

Hi AT - yes - I think quarter tones are often used in microtonal music. But the definition of a microtone is anything smaller than a semitone.