[nagukush]

Hello All

I hope everythings great there !!!

I'm sorry if my Question seems absurd or not-very-brilliant, but I really wanna know this

1. What is Improvisation ? Is it like creating your own music (or song) ?

2. For Finger-style players, does improvisation means that we have to invent the melody, chord changes, bass lines etc ????

3. I understand that for being able to improvise, one has to have a stong theory knowledge and PT is gonna help me in this, but when does a player reach a position, where he can play his favorite songs, without depending upon tabs ?

If I may speak personally here, I usually can play the melody line of any song after hearing it about 10 - 20 times, ONLY USING A FLATPICK, but though I have learnt about 10 Finger-Style song-arrangments, I have no idea about what I'm doing and how will I get to a position when I'll be able to play all my Family's Favorite songs.

Kindly advice Friends.

Lots of Regards to all
Kush

[Kirk Lorange]

Hi, Kush.

Yes, improvisation is the art of creating music spontaneously ... without having rehearsed it, or learned the part. Of course, it's only through playing for a long time and keeping track of all the bits and pieces that one can form a mental image of the piece of music and play around with it, following the rules.

Finger style players do the same thing ... they also invent the full part as they go, but again, only because they have played so many parts over so many years that they are not so much inventing as reorganizing all the little bits and pieces they have learned over the years into a new and unique 'part'. This is also done by following the rules of music.

Everything hinges around the chord structure of the piece of music they are playing, even if that itself is being 'invented' ... chords are central to all music, even if you're only hearing those chords in your head as you invent a melody.

PlaneTalk will be very revealing, but don't be discouraged if it takes a while to start improvising ... you really have to get familiar with the way music is structured to be able to tinker with it as you go, so to speak, and that takes time.

Know your keys, by that I mean know the related chords for each key. Don't worry too much about #/b keys, concentrate on guitar friendly keys.

Does that help?

Back to the cricket ... Bangladesh are going down.

[allthumbs]

Go to the P.T. forum and do some of the lessons there. There are lots of posts about improv you can read too.

[nagukush]

Hello Captain Kirk

Thankyou so much for caring and for the Kind Advice. I understand that I'd have to be very patient and It will take time to get to a next level.

I also wanted to ask one more thing here, As you have mentioned in the PT's page, I too sometimes feel very discouraged and depressed when I think "Why am I playing this Piece ???..."What am I doing Musically ???" this thought just put me off , But I still believe, that as I'm new to the Finger-Style's worlds, I have to learn many more song-arrangments, to get fluent with the Techniques etc. Am I right Sir ??? I hope its not wrong to depend on the TABS and learn a few many more songs, before I can think of hitting the next level. Kindly advice. (Hope I'm not bothering Sir.

Lots of Regards and Care
Kush

[allthumbs]

Ask this stuff at the P.T. forum Kush. We can't go into deatail here.

[nagukush]

Originally Posted by allthumbs

Ask this stuff at the P.T. forum Kush. We can't go into deatail here.

Ok Marty !!! I'm sorry for that !!!

Regds
Kush

[Das Alt Peruke]

Originally Posted by Kirk Lorange

Hi, Kush.

Yes, improvisation is the art of creating music spontaneously ... without having rehearsed it, or learned the part. Of course, it's only through playing for a long time and keeping track of all the bits and pieces that one can form a mental image of the piece of music and play around with it, following the rules.

Finger style players do the same thing ... they also invent the full part as they go, but again, only because they have played so many parts over so many years that they are not so much inventing as reorganizing all the little bits and pieces they have learned over the years into a new and unique 'part'. This is also done by following the rules of music.

Everything hinges around the chord structure of the piece of music they are playing, even if that itself is being 'invented' ... chords are central to all music, even if you're only hearing those chords in your head as you invent a melody.

PlaneTalk will be very revealing, but don't be discouraged if it takes a while to start improvising ... you really have to get familiar with the way music is structured to be able to tinker with it as you go, so to speak, and that takes time.

Know your keys, by that I mean know the related chords for each key. Don't worry too much about #/b keys, concentrate on guitar friendly keys.

Does that help?

Back to the cricket ... Bangladesh are going down.

poor Alto players will hate that

[Das Alt Peruke]

Scales can be very useful to anyone who can only play chords and has not developed the ability to move with versatility in a linear fashion. If you follow Commander Kirks advice and make melody you benchmark and avoid Cling ons, and treat scales like a Ballerinas Bar, a tool to develop the dance, not the dance itself, they can be a great tool to give facility in linear movement and the mechanics involved, but they almost always must be practised along with arpeggios or you will be stuck in 2nds hell. They also build a good instinctive knowledge of what will happen if I stick my finger here next... especially if you sing along with them, and when playing 2 chord vamps chord shape basis can be as bad as scales in multi chord settings limiting ideas like Santanas songs he almost has to play dorians scales. Guitar is a manually dextrous exercise in alot of respects and they will develop that, but I have found playing lots of tunes in lots of keys just as written (provided they are harmonically interesting)to be very good also, as is Jelly wresting.