[daf]

heyhey dudes

Music,music,music

how do you read it im just so, so lost

any tips?

thanks

daf

peace out x

[Aunt Doty]

Try learning to read tabs and play just using chords at first. Once you can at least play a few songs then you can gradually work on learning to read music. This way you won't get stressed out and quit, because you'll be having fun playing things that you like.

[allthumbs]

Also check out the lesson on tab reading.

[daf]

thanks!!

[tonedeaf]

Brand new to playing the guitar?...read this first.

Check this page out. It really is for beginners then go from there.

[daf]

cheers tonedeaf

daf

peace out X

[Rockerbob]

I don't read it.

[daf]

Originally Posted by Rockerbob

I don't read it.

intresting

thanks

daf

Peace out X

[Rockerbob]

Don't get me wrong. Learning to read music is a great, useful skill. I just learned from friends and by ear over too many years and never got around to learning to read standard music notation. Sure, I can slowly identify notes in the treble chef, but very slowly. Anything you learn about the structure of music can only help in the long run. You have to learn the rules if you want to break them properly. My knowledge of the rules comes from many years of just learning to play songs. Not the fastest way to get there, but it works if you have 30 years or so.

[jimmyzowens]

no readin music here either i dont want to be tied down i want to flow like a small creek thru the forest bending left and right slowly wandering through the wilderness carving my own way through the universe.

[henry b]

Originally Posted by jimmyzowens

no readin music here either i dont want to be tied down i want to flow like a small creek thru the forest bending left and right slowly wandering through the wilderness carving my own way through the universe.

Isn,t that nice.

[Noodler]

Quote from my guitar teacher (a conservatorium trained pianist), when I said he could write a melody down in standard notation if he wanted to since I can read a bit:

"What, dots? Dots don't make sense for guitar. On a keyboard they do, because it's more visual. No, tab makes more sense for guitar" Think about it, a sharp or flat on a keyboard is a black key, a natural is a white key.

Of course, you have to know how the song goes first though for tab.
This may surprise you, but you don't have to read music to understand theory (honest). How many sharps in A? Lets see: C has no sharps, go up a fifth to G, that gives you one sharp (F#), go up one 5th to D, that gives you two sharps (F# and C#). Go up a fifth from D to A, and we have 3 sharps (F#, C#, G#). That's using the circle of fifths and fretboard knowledge. No writing required.

Or just from knowing the notes on the fretboard, what the scale of E major? E, F#, G#,A,B,C#, D#, E.

My point: theory and reading are different beasts.

[Fretsource]

Originally Posted by Noodler

Quote from my guitar teacher (a conservatorium trained pianist), when I said he could write a melody down in standard notation if he wanted to since I can read a bit:

"What, dots? Dots don't make sense for guitar. On a keyboard they do, because it's more visual. No, tab makes more sense for guitar" Think about it, a sharp or flat on a keyboard is a black key, a natural is a white key.

In that case, if your 'conservatorium trained pianist' teacher had wandered along the corridor to the classical guitar department, he would have been very surprised to find not a single tab sheet in sight - just standard notation.

Fact is, until a few centuries ago ALL guitar music was written in tab. When the guitar became recognised as a serious instrument and music written for it became correspondingly more complex, the shortcomings of tab soon became painfully evident and the decision was taken to use standard notation instead.
When the guitar started to become hugely popular in the twentieth century among non-classically trained players, publishers saw a market for TAB as a way of putting out sheet music that could be instantly understood (to an extent), despite its serious weaknesses.
Both systems have their place.

[GotDeeBlues]

I don't see any reason not to use various methods simultaniously, tabs to get some songs down for enjoyment and charted music to do it "right". I have been taking lessons and reading music is the method used. Slower going, but I am getting to where I can play around with a lesson and imrovise some based on understanding the connection of things on the board. It has also made picking up strum pattern from known songs using tabs. (One opinion poorly expressed by a real beginner.)

[Noodler]

Originally Posted by Fretsource

In that case, if your 'conservatorium trained pianist' teacher had wandered along the corridor to the classical guitar department, he would have been very surprised to find not a single tab sheet in sight - just standard notation.

Fact is, until a few centuries ago ALL guitar music was written in tab. When the guitar became recognised as a serious instrument and music written for it became correspondingly more complex, the shortcomings of tab soon became painfully evident and the decision was taken to use standard notation instead.
When the guitar started to become hugely popular in the twentieth century among non-classically trained players, publishers saw a market for TAB as a way of putting out sheet music that could be instantly understood (to an extent), despite its serious weaknesses.
Both systems have their place.

I never knew that tab was historically favoured. That's really interesting.

I did classical guitar for a while and did learn to read some, but seriously, if you are familiar with a tune and I give you the option of standard notation and tab, which are you going to choose? I'll take tab, unless the song is "Bah Bah black sheep". Ideally you'd have standard notation for the rhythm and tab below it.

JayJay, just start simple, man. Play pieces in C or G or F. Classical guitarists work with a teacher, who explains what all those italian words mean re:tempo, loudness, etc. It's expected to take a long time to learn. That's why they have grades. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen.