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What chord am I "feeling"?
I was just messing around, trying to come up with a chord progression, when I played Am, C, and then G. After the G tho, I can just "feel" a chord coming, I can hear it in my head. Can someone try it and tell me what it is so I can play it? It's driving me nuts.
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Try G7? (320001)
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That works, but I'm not sure if thats the exact chord I was hearing. And after playing the G7, I hear something else that should be coming after it, too. I know that a seventh will do that though, it has a tone that kind of drags you to the next chord.
I want to learn more about theory, but I wont be able to put it into practice cuz I dont even have all the open chords down yet (C and Dm mostly).
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Your playing in the Key of C so that means a strong chord choice would be the IV chord or F chord. You could go to the F from the G and then do a G7 for the turn around.
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Hi KaerfSusej.
The best thing is to try a few. The most likely candidates are the other 'related chords' from the key of C, which is where the first three come from.
Try Em, F ... they work well. Dm is the only one left after those two, but you'll hear how weak it sounds.
They don't have to be from the key, however ... you could play an E7 there, which leads the ear back to the Am ready for a new pass through them all; D major works, but sort of demands that you follow it with another chord. The G7 Carol suggests makes you want to go back to the C ...
There are countless options!
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D major was what I felt when I played the progression too - it seemed to give it some resolution. I tried Dmin first since D is the II chord in the key of C (making it a minor), but I agree with Kirk - it sounded weak and dissonant.
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Wow, thanks guys. I think the E7 is what I wanted.
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Personally, the D works for me. Try it with a Dsus in there like:
Am C G D Dsus D
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A perhaps?
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D major works for me also.... Probably because it sounds very similar to a Third Day song.
The Third Day song goes like this:
E C G D
E C A
So in the same light, you try alternating between the D and E7 like this:
Am C G D
Am C E7
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It sounds like KaerfSusej has found the chord he/she wants, but I noticed something that suprised me.
Kirk brought up that Am is the 1 chord of the key of A Minor (or A Aeolian), and the C major and G majnor chords are also in that key. Major and Minor (or Ionian and Aeolian respectively) are just different starting points of one patter and Major and Minor are no more elementary/basic/important than the other starting points (except for Ionian and Aeolian are the most common). Like Kirk said Em and F and Dm are the likely contenders. I noticed that Am is the 1 chord of A Dorian and the C and G chords are in A Dorian, Em is also in A dorian. Now the thing that pleasently suprised me: the D Major chord is the 5 chord of A Dorian which was also suggested. (also A Dorian will add Bm as a likely contender but then F and D wouldnt be relative chords with Am and C and G).
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I find your use of the Modes in this very confusing.
"A Dorian" for instance, isn't that just the key of G?
Since it's all naturals except the F which is a Sharp, 1 sharp,
F# = Key of G
So isn't A Dorian a bit confusing?
Also how can D Major be the fifth chord of A Dorian...A B C D...surely it would have to be the fourth chord of A Dorian.
By using the terms of Modes instead of Keys you are throwing everything into disarry.
D Major IS the 5th Chord of G Major ...G A B C D which is far less confusing then talking in modes.
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June 6th, 2007
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Originally Posted by Fong
By using the terms of Modes instead of Keys you are throwing everything into disarry.
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In general people will start with their root, and won't start with other chords b/c it isnt the root of a Major or Minor scale, but you can play start on any chord of a diatonic scale b/c its a root of a relative scale, so in part I was trying to show that.
And when people look for chords, they may only use thier root as the I chord of a major or minor scale, which again isnt necessary.
Just ingeneral when I read different threads I think the major scale gets way too much importance (notation of intervals uses the major scale as a reference point), but when it comes to playing a song the major scale gets equal importance to the other 6 modes (however this varies on taste).
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Originally Posted by Fong
Also how can D Major be the fifth chord of A Dorian...A B C D...surely it would have to be the fourth chord of A Dorian.
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