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half dim b chord
what notes are in it?
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take my knowledge with a grain of salt and someone please correct me if im wrong, but wouldnt the half dim b chord be the VII chord in the key of G and be made up of B D# F# and A.
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I always find it easier to think of half diminished chords as minor7flat5, so for B, think of a Bm7 and flat the 5.
B F A D ... that would be the vii chord of the key of C. So it's the F# of Bm (the 5) that gets flatted down to F.
(A half-diminished chord is 1-b3-5b-b7 ... a minor 7th chord is 1-b3-5-b7, so the only difference between the two is that 5. Look at any minor7th chord shape, find the 5(s) within and flat it(them) ... now you have a half-diminished chord. Simple!)
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thanks kirk, still trying to figure out how this chord chart works
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EDIT: Apologies, I deleted the original post. Looking at it in terms of intervals will probably only confuse the issue. I did arrive at B D F A though.... 
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Kirk, with such an explanation I realise how very little of music I actually understand.
Time to get my head into some books.
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Originally Posted by jon_stggt
Kirk, with such an explanation I realise how very little of music I actually understand.
Time to get my head into some books.
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If you fancy working through a free online course there's an excellent one at the link below.
Understanding Basic Music Theory
It's well written and has a great many embedded links so that you can look up any unfamiliar terms before you move on. The logic of how it's all laid out seems very good, so it does pay to begin at the beginning and work your way through. Some good exercises in there to work on and get it all to 'stick' as well.
Cheers,
Chris
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