Should I use this as a first guitar? (Morena)
Posted 07 November 2006 - 03:51 AM
I went to pick it up today and to my surprise it was a small acoustic guitar, and the label on the inside said:
I know nearly nothing about sorts of guitars, but it sounds Spanish, and It belonged to a sister of my mothers, so it's over 40 years old. It also has steel strings. Here's a photo:
It's in pretty good condition and the strings seem fine.
My question is, should I stick with this guitar, or start with a larger, nylon stringed one? I have pretty limited funds, so I'm stuck. It's not what I was expecting, but perhaps I could get used to it? Heh
Thanks for any replies!
Posted 07 November 2006 - 04:30 AM
Posted 07 November 2006 - 06:16 AM
Chances are that this guitar is designed to use steel strings as I`m pretty certain it would have self destructed by now if it was made for nylons - string tension is much higher with steel strings and will pull an unsuitable guitar apart.
Posted 07 November 2006 - 06:17 AM
Posted 07 November 2006 - 06:36 AM
My view is, assuming the steel strings are ok to use (I'm sure someone here will be able to advise on that), if you find it comfortable to use and you're happy with the sounds it makes, plus with the history. I don't see why you shouldn't use it. I think it's a nice looking guitar. Very portable too.
Posted 07 November 2006 - 07:32 AM
Posted 07 November 2006 - 07:48 AM
The label says "Morena Musical Instruments Co. LTD" and there is no date. A Google search shows only one result - a non-exsistant ebay auction for a "vintage guitar" by the same company, heh.
It was made to use nylon strings? That's strange, I wonder why it was changed? I'm still wondering wether to search for another, forgive my ignorance, "normal" acoustic guitar. This one sounds fine, but I'm having a lot of trouble getting my fingers where they're meant to be and wonder if it's because it's so small.
Oh and I've started learning chords and my fingers feel like they're on fire. Feels good when I can play a chord and it sounds like the recording on the site, though
Posted 07 November 2006 - 08:09 AM
Posted 07 November 2006 - 09:34 AM
Posted 07 November 2006 - 09:46 AM
Oh, well! Worth a try. I was hoping you might have found a 'closet gem'. The flat, wide profile of the fingerboard and the style of the tuning pegs is what makes me believe it was meant for nylon strings. Usually, the style of bridge saddle would be a pretty good indication too, as classical strings are 'tied' on at the bridge and guitars designed for steel strings have a peg-pin arrangement. Who knows what you've got? So long as your happy for the time being, save your money until you get to know what you want. Fingers on fire is good, (Up to a point anyway) means you've been practising.
I had a Framus acoustic decades ago that I started learning on. It had the same type of tuning pegs/headstock. The bridge/tailpiece was similar to an Ovation. No pegs to push into holes, but small holes drilled through the tailpiece and the strings went through them and over the bridge. So, this was probably designed for steel strings.
If it has been sitting in a closet for all those years, you may want to get new strings. I'm sure it would sound better and probably feel better on your fingers.
However, the more I look at the picture, it looks like a guitar made back , perhaps in the early 50s, when a lot of companies were making guitars due to the demand that seemed to have sprung up from GIs getting out of the service. (Something I just read about recently) Some of these companies had very little knowledge of how a guitar should be made properly , or just playable for that matter. This may be a good antique.
I would try to find a good Guitar/stringed instrument shop that has a qualified person on staff to look at it and evaluate it. They would be able to tell you if it is a good, playable guitar, or if it was one of the previously mentioned circa 50s guitars.
When I first started, my Uncle gave me a guitar he got when he was in the service in 1948. "Thanks Unc!", and then I went and struggled trying to play chords and was miserable since the strings were so high off the neck. That was when a friend let me use his Framus. Night & Day difference.
So, just my opinon. If it is worth saving and can be made playable, great. If it isn't, it cost you nothing. Just save a bit more and get a nice starter guitar. Now a days there are many choices at a good price range.
Hope things work out.
Posted 07 November 2006 - 12:03 PM
Looks like a really fun guitar - I love the pick guard.
Posted 07 November 2006 - 09:32 PM
They are actually made to have steel strings - even though they look like they should have nylons.
Posted 08 November 2006 - 09:13 AM
I bought a new guitar and left the old one for their charity scheme.
Posted 09 November 2006 - 02:46 AM
I've also decided on what to get for my first electric when I do: http://www.guitarcentre.net.au/cgi-bin/mall.pl?category=Guitars%2FElectric&format=detail&page=list&from=3&pid=49039&domain=guitarcent
It looks like a good deal, and they set up the guitar for you before they give it to you. Someone else was in the store who got the same deal a few months ago and he says it's great so far.
Thank you guys for all the info and advice, I feel bad for all those people who didn't have access to this place when learning!
Posted 09 November 2006 - 02:56 AM
Posted 09 November 2006 - 03:35 AM
your link just gives me a sort of purpleish/pink page
It's working now. Looks fine.
Posted 03 December 2006 - 06:18 PM
Posted 12 December 2006 - 04:16 AM
Posted 12 December 2006 - 08:02 AM
Posted 12 December 2006 - 10:58 AM
Is there a truss-rod in the neck? Is the binding made of wood?
By the way, the previous discussion tended towards steel strings as the right choice for this guitar but it looks from the pic that it was strung with nylon. I'd stick with nylon at the beginning - if the guitar looks robust you may want to try light guage steels later.
Once you refurbish it, let us know how it plays/sounds - post a clip.
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