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I have just joined up and can see that a few people have tried using the Kristal Audio Engine and are having problems. Come on over to the Kristal Forums and we will do our best to get you up and running!

It is a great piece of software, and it along with Audacity makes a nice little free setup. I recorded my first CD, MIDDLE OF THE STORM, with this setup. You can check that CD out HERE (towards the bottom of the page).

I am looking forward to hanging out here, and I hope this helps!

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:) Welcome!

I sometimes use Krystal (with Audacity as a WAV in...), only poblem for me is volume and a decent soundcard...

Anyway, thanks for posting this up!

Jean

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I use krystal thanks for the link, for some reason Audacity will not work on my setup but krystal so far is great.

I shall check out those forums at work tomorrow ops did i just say that!!!!!

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What soundcard do you have?

Sorry I meant to say driver, I use the SOUNDMAX driver which removes the noise of a recording but lowers the volume...

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You really don't need both. Audacity can do multi-track recording, just like Kristal. But I feel that Kristal is a lot easier to use, and don't take up as much CPU as Audacity once you get above 6 or so tracks with effects. And Kristal is really just a multi track recorder. It don't have any type of editing features built in, thus that is where Audacity comes in.

I use to use Audacity as my wave editor, but now a days I use Soundforge6. It works a lot better with Kristal. With Audacity you would Right click your file in Kristal, select Edit in external editor, edit the file in Audacity, save it, then you would have to import it back into Kristal and line it up. With Soundforge (and Sound Engine Free) after you get done editing you save it, close Soundforge, then in Kristal right click the file you worked on and select Refresh and BAM!, it is edited, and you don't have to mess around with lining it back up.

Kristal is just a great piece of free software IMHO. Even with its quirks it is very usable.

And Jean, have you tried the ASIO4ALL driver for you Soundmax card? And how are you running your signal into it? If your running your mic straight into the card, have you tried turning on the 20db boost setting, and then reducing the volume? Just tossing out some ideas...

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You really don't need both. Audacity can do multi-track recording, just like Kristal. But I feel that Kristal is a lot easier to use, and don't take up as much CPU as Audacity once you get above 6 or so tracks with effects. And Kristal is really just a multi track recorder. It don't have any type of editing features built in, thus that is where Audacity comes in.

Ah, I didn't know that Kristal didn't have an editing feature. I've looked at Kristal and am intrigued by what appears to be much better VST support than Audacity has, so using them together might make good sense. Thanks for the reply. :)

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You are very welcome slejhamer.

OK, here I am going to list a compleat studio setup that anyone can use.....:winkthumb:

The Kristal Audio Engine. A free and easy to use piece of software. Will record up to 16track's, has ASIO support, and you can use VST effects along with the good ones that are built in. And it has great support thur the forum, just like this site! :clap:

These 3 VST effects are the ones I use 99% of the time with Kristal, I think they are must haves!

Kjaerhus Audio Classic Series

Digital Fish Phones (look to the left, the Fish Fillets rock!)

GlaceVerb, the best reverb I have found.

The following are a couple Audio Editors that I have used....

Tiny Wave Editor and Sound Engine Free

These don't have all the bells and whistles that Audacity has, but they import the files right back into Kristal, which means you don't have to line the tracks back up!

By using all of the software listed above with the Kristal Audio Engine you can have a 16 track home recording setup for FREE! :yeahhh:

The rest are some links to other VST effects that work well with Kristal. The links might be outdated, I didn't check them all. But the 3 listed above will give you most everything you need to make some good recordings!

A list of VST's....

http://www2.kvr-vst.com

Freeverb2, and others.

http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~thman/VST/vst-eff2.htm

MDA VST Plugins. The Combo one is nice.

http://www.maxim.abel.co.uk/vst/

Check out r8Brain. It does a good job of converting 48bit files to 44.1.

http://www.voxengo.com/downloads/

Some Wave Editors and Sample Tools

http://www.soundalot.com/freeware/wave/wave-b.html

Luxonix, a free multi effect (sound good on guitar).

http://www.luxonix.com

Projects based on the E-mu/Ensoniq PARIS system.A pretty good EQ and a old asio driver.

http://www.cs.usyd.edu.au/~mcraig/projects/paris/

A nice reverb that works well for back up vocals.

http://www.anwida.com/dxrevlight.asp

A BIG list of plugins.

http://www.kvraudio.com/allpluginsononepage.php

Another cool site

http://www.vstcentral.com/

And here is a multi track that is free at the moment, but it will be a pay for when it gets out of Beta, called Reaper. It is a big step up from Kristal, has unlimited inserts, can use VST and DX effects along with VSTi's instruments. The development on this is unbelievingly quick, and even tho it is a Beta it is quite useable.

For hardware I use 2 soundcards, a Soundblaster PCI512 running the kX Project 3537 drivers, and a Echo Darla20. I use a Behringer UB802 mixer. For mics I own a MXL990, DAK 2001, and a Audio Spectrum plastic 58 copy. I also have a Duncan Performer soundhole pickup for the Rogue acoustic. And that's it for hardware.

I am posting all of this in the hope that some people may find it helpful. I own Cool Edit Pro 2.1, Acid, Tracktion2, and Cakewalk8, but I still find myself using the setup listed at the top 90% of the time, it is just quicker loading and easier to use IMHO! :eek:

Enjoy! :D

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When we're talking about Kristal...

When I turn on LiveIn there is delay before sound comes to the speakers...

I don't know what is the problem.. Do you know?

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Smurf, I just tried Krystal, and did a test 1234 recording and the recording was terrible. I cannot find a way to export it as a wav or mp3, etc... How do I do this so I can upload it?

Thanks,

AA

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When we're talking about Kristal...

When I turn on LiveIn there is delay before sound comes to the speakers...

I don't know what is the problem.. Do you know?

I'm pretty sure if you D/L and install Asio4All then set it as your sound/recording device it will kill the latency (try to get your Asio buffer size down to 64 samples - if this works with no pops or clicks you should be working with next to no latency)

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