Hi everyone. Having problems getting passed to the next level.
Posted 30 November 2011 - 12:01 PM
Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:48 PM
Some players want to play guitar and look for suitable songs they can play.
Other players want to play certain songs and do it using a guitar.
It's a subtle difference in approach. Beginners are generally the first type, (but not always.) More advanced players become the second type when they stop worrying about their skill and concentrate on how they present the music.
I wonder which of these types you are? Could your "robot" style be because you're thinking too much about the guitar and not enough about the music?
Keep in touch.
Posted 30 November 2011 - 03:09 PM
Posted 30 November 2011 - 06:13 PM
Are you playing music you really love?Maybe the type of music your playing is the problem.
Posted 30 November 2011 - 06:54 PM
I've been playing music for fifty years, and if I say so myself, with a degree of proficiency.
How long have you been playing the guitar Mr. Karcey?
Guitar?... Well I've been struggling with guitar for about six years and I'm still at the "unhappy" stage.
Posted 01 December 2011 - 02:24 AM
To Stu74 - I love the music I practice. It's just that I don't have enough mental power to bounce back everytime I get harsh criticism from my teacher, who is kind of a type-love person. Because as I said that he is one of the top musicians, his standard is so high that I can never reach it, no matter how much I try
To Karcey - When you were still an amateur, how did you find the strength to get back up and improve constantly? For me, whenever I get harsh criticism from my teacher, which by all means is a good thing, it really brings me down and it takes me a while to get back up and practice again.
Sorry if I sound a bit too whiny, I just have no one to talk to...
Posted 01 December 2011 - 02:50 AM
Posted 01 December 2011 - 02:59 AM
Posted 01 December 2011 - 04:16 AM
You need a survival technique to get you through. How about this. Your teacher will never compliment you, so don't look for it. His attitude is obviously a negative one. That is, he'll keep punishing his students until they're as good as he is. He probably has favourites and bestows what little good grace he can muster on them. The rest, you included, are just income.
Well instead of concentrating on what you can't do, think for a bit about how much better you are now than you were a year ago. It may not be perfection, but it's going in the right direction.
Keep taking lessons because that way you'll keep making progress. A different teacher would be ideal, but this one will at least be able to give you information and show you techniques that you'll be able to use. It's his criticism that knocks you down, so expect it, and then ignore it. All you need from him is the lesson.
You don't have anyone to practise with. That's a shame. Sharing time with another guitarist is fun and helps consolidate formal lessons. See if you can find someone else to play with between your lessons. They don't have to be good, just willing to play along. Even playing exercises will do.
A few of our members are teachers. You'll find a lot of lessons from them in other areas of this site. To a man they'd all tell you that learning music should be enjoyable, and the teacher has a big influence on whether or not it is. Pity you've got one who doesn't realise this.
So keep at it, measure your progress and reward yourself for every step you take. At 22 you've got a lot more years left than I have, and there's no reason why they can't all be musical.
Keep in touch.
Posted 01 December 2011 - 04:58 AM
Posted 01 December 2011 - 07:05 AM
Many "average" guitar players have written great songs.
Are you still an average guitar player if you have written a great song?
Just some food for thought...
from the Rocky Horror Picture Show
Posted 01 December 2011 - 10:30 AM
You said you want a music career as soon as possible. This is probably why your music instructor is pushing you. He wants to see you succeed in order to meet your goal. I'm sure he has your best interest in mind. Work hard and don't give up.
The best to you.
Posted 01 December 2011 - 04:43 PM
I think we all get times when we are feeling down about our guitar playing when we are learning.Sometimes a bit of encouragement and praise every now again is what some of us need(i know i need it)
Maybe you are a better player than you think you are and he is just pushing you.
You should have a chat with him and tell him how you feel.
Posted 02 December 2011 - 07:31 AM
Posted 02 December 2011 - 10:48 PM
As Mike said, perhaps since you want to make music your profession, that is why your teacher is so hard on you. But, as a teacher myself, I know that one method does not work for all students. When I first started teaching 3 years ago, I realized very quickly that what worked for one person will not work for a another person.
Also, like karcey said, he may be a good player, but it seems he is not that good of a teacher. I think I would look for a new teacher. He or she wouldn't have to be a famous performer, but just have the skills and ability and as important, the desire to share their knowledge with others.
i can tell you now, I KNOW I am not the best guitarist in my town. There are DOZENS (probably a lot more than that) in my city, but they don't teach. Many of the good teachers perform in local bands, some do not. But what you want in a teacher is someone with the desire to share their knowledge and see you reach YOUR goals. it may be that you need a different teacher for now, someone that can comfortably get you up to a new level, then you would be ready to go to someone like your current teacher once you've moved up to a level YOU feel you should be at.
Just my thoughts, I hope you have good luck in your endeavors!!
Posted 03 December 2011 - 01:17 PM
I' going to agree with some of the previous posters and suggest you shop around for a new teacher.
To be clear, it has been my experience that oftentimes the best practitioners are the worst teachers--they seem to lack patience and the ability to sympathize with their students. For example, I majored in biochemistry in college and took a course with a guy who was a pioneer in the field. I was very excited to have gotten into his class, but ultimately I was terribly disappointed. He was brilliant, but couldn't teach worth a damn. I learned more biochemistry from a couple of sessions with his grad student than I did in an entire semester of his classes.
The other thing is that this guy sounds like he is making you crazy uptight. The problem is that when you get uptight, you tense up, and when you get tense, it can make you play...like a robot. My teacher is a competent guitarist but not a great guitarist (he plays locally). He has even predicted that one day I will be able to outplay him. But for the time being, he has plenty to teach me AND it's in an atmosphere where I am relaxed enough to experiment and be myself. If I screw something up, he just smiles and says "Don't get upset, let's just try that again."
I suspect that if you find someone who is a better match, the joy will come back into your playing and your true self will shine through.
"The fault lies not in our [guitars] Horatio, but in ourselves."
Posted 03 December 2011 - 01:45 PM
This is the first day, after 3 days of music absence, that I pick up the guitar and start practising again. I'll try to find another teacher later, but for now, I'll try to adapt and maybe talk to him first.
Thank you everyone for all your support. It means a lot.
Posted 03 December 2011 - 02:09 PM
Posted 03 December 2011 - 02:26 PM
Posted 09 December 2011 - 07:15 PM
If you can put up with him and work through it you might end up being one hell of a guitarist or you might end up giving in all together.
My teacher sounds a little bit like yours Rolandc.He told me he has many ex pupils that
have out grown him technicaly.Hes far from the best guitarist but he is a great teacher in my opinion.
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