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September 23rd, 2006
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Ranking the lessons
It sure would be nice for those of us trying to learn fingerpicking if someone would rank the lessons in terms of difficulty.
I wouldn't think this would be that hard to do--you know have certain fingerpicking lessons that fall in Stage 1, or Stage 2, up through maybe Stage 5 if 5 enough stages is high enough.
Inexperienced as I am, it gets a little frustrating choosing a lesson and then finding out it is more difficult than what my level of learning is ready for.
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September 23rd, 2006
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Hi Eric
I guess it would be a tad difficult to rate the lessons, as what you may find difficult, others may find easy and vice versa, what you find easy others may find harder. 
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September 24th, 2006
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Originally Posted by coldethyl
Hi Eric
I guess it would be a tad difficult to rate the lessons, as what you may find difficult, others may find easy and vice versa, what you find easy others may find harder. 
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True that but theres gotta be some sort way to classify ones as beginner lessons and one as novice lessons.
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I believe Kirk and Clancy already have the lessons categorized in beginners lessons and I gather the fingerstyle lessons would be for the more advanced players or at least intermediate players.
You can confirm here: http://www.guitarforbeginners.com/fo...splay.php?f=34
As for actual ranking, I'd say Kirk or Clancy would be the right one's to question about that! 
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September 24th, 2006
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Originally Posted by Marwan
True that but theres gotta be some sort way to classify ones as beginner lessons and one as novice lessons.
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Classical repetoire is usually classified by grade levels 1-9. I don't know of any similar grading system for pop/rock/folk/jazz standards.
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September 24th, 2006
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I guess I should try and classify these lessons, but I'm not very good at it. I'm never quite sure what level I should slot these into. I'll ask Clancy if there's some way perhaps of members themselves giving them some sort of level-of-difficulty ranking ... that might be the way to go. 
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If I had to say so, I would think JT Style Pickin (more well known chords) and Amazing Grace except for that shift right before C9 are probably (at least to me) the easier of the lessons. (as pertains to the fingerstyle lessons)
Btw: What might you be doing right before that C9 chord fingering on Amazing Grace, you do some kind of slide right there, not really getting through my thick skull.
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September 24th, 2006
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I can set something up that will allow members to rate the lessons in degrees of difficulty. I just need some suggestions on how we should rank them.
We could have:
Beginner (although none of them are really for beginners) maybe Easy would be better.
Easy
Intermediate
Difficult
I can set it up to have a maximum of five choices and it will average out... so for example, with just the three choices above, if someone rates the lesson as Easy and someone rates it as Difficult, then it would average out to Intermediate if you know what I mean.
Anyway, looking for suggestions.
We can break it down to up to five levels... hope that all makes sense.
Clancy
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I like the idea of that, you could also do it as a poll.... well that wouldn't give you an average really.
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Easy
Intermediate
Difficult
Clancy
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I think that is a cool idea Clancy!
Or maybe something like:
Beginner
Novice
Intermediate
Transitional (obviously not quite at the advanced level yet but at a level higher than intermediate)
Advanced
Just a suggestion! Someone else may have a better way! 
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I like the idea of ranking the lessons, although I can see the difficulty in it. I, for one, have attacked lessons that were almost impossible, and others that were a no-brainer. But most of the difficulty was not fingering the chords, but picking out the melody notes from the "lead in" notes, so to speak, especially the songs that I had no reference for how they sound as opposed to popular songs that I had ringing in the back of my brain.
Just me 2 cents worth.
thanks,
hb
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September 24th, 2006
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Did you do that on purpose Neil?
The quote in your posts says:
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Easy
Intermediate
Difficult
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Thanks for your suggestions. I think Novice and Beginner are almost the same though.
Clancy
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September 25th, 2006
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Originally Posted by Clancy
Did you do that on purpose Neil?
The quote in your posts says:
Thanks for your suggestions. I think Novice and Beginner are almost the same though.
Clancy
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No Clancy, it wasn't intentional.  Sorry!
I thought novice was actually at a level slightly greater than beginner. 
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September 25th, 2006
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Originally Posted by Clancy
Did you do that on purpose Neil?
The quote in your posts says:
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Easy
Intermediate
Difficult
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Thanks for your suggestions. I think Novice and Beginner are almost the same though.
Clancy
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Freudian slip 
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September 25th, 2006
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Originally Posted by Kirk Lorange
I guess I should try and classify these lessons, but I'm not very good at it. I'm never quite sure what level I should slot these into. I'll ask Clancy if there's some way perhaps of members themselves giving them some sort of level-of-difficulty ranking ... that might be the way to go. 
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The classical repertoire would have single line melodies in 1st position rated as "Grade 1", simple two voice pieces in 1st position would be "Grade 2", etc. etc. Complex pieces that have have a lot of counterpoint, multiple voices and change position a lot get a "Grade 9" rating. Something like Bachs Fugue in Aminor would probably get a "9" ranking.
If you compare the relative complexity of your lessons to something like Fred Noads "100 Graded Studies" you might be able to devise a ranking system of your own.
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