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Song Writing Tip - Lyrical Hooks

Hey folks,

Just a short note and hopefully a useful song-writing tip.

I haven't posted any lyrics lately and lucky for you, I won't tonight. I haven't been lazy, believe me. I've been scouring over my lyrics, rewriting, adjusting, trying to determine if I'm heading in the *write* direction. In the meantime, I've had yet another revelation in song writing I'd like to share you writers. You may already know this and I may be preaching to the choir. But for you writers just starting out I think you'll find this informative and useful.

Lyrical Hooks.

A lyrical hook is that small catch phrase, usually found in a chorus that makes a song memorable to you. For example, Zepplin's "Stairway to Heaven" or The Beatles "I Wanna Hold Your Hand". OK, OK! Telling my age, eh?

In many cases and more often than not, the lyrical hook, which I'll refer to as the "hook" from now on, is the title of the song. The hook is what grabs your attention and keeps you coming back for more. And if a hook did that to you, then it did it's job.

Hooks, are short, snappy and memorable. But creating or finding a hook with those qualities is a tough job. Believe me! Many song writers start a song with a hook. In other words, they think up a hook and then write a song around the hook. Sometimes a hook doesn't show up until a lyric is already in progress. But a lyric without a hook is like a Coke with no fizz, or a beer with no head. At least a little one.

But most important of all about hooks. Your verses must "lead" to the hook. I am so guilty of not doing that. I'm all over the place. Until now! Your hook is the candied dessert of your lyrics. The verses are just meat and potatoes with maybe a little gravy for the meat.

I wrote a lyric, Big Hearts Fall Hard. The phrase 'Big Hearts Fall Hard" is the hook. It's the payoff. Adn it's a darn good hook that requires a darn good lyric. Now that I've got your attention with my hook, you'll want to hear it in all it's glory. But me as a writer doesn't want to give it to you all at once. I want to build up to it. I want to give you an interesting trip to get to the payoff.

Here's my original First Verse and Chorus

[V1]
I've got you on my mind today
You didn't leave me time to say
You said goodbye, you closed the door
You had a ticket, I sat on the floor

[Chorus]
Big hearts fall hard
Big hearts fall hard
And if you wonder
Why it thunders
Big hearts fall hard

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If you read the verse, you'll obviously see, the verse itself literally has no reference point at all to the hook. The verse does not lead you through a buildup toward the hook. Essentially, all the verse refers to is that "you" meaning the other person in the lyric, left "me" the primary person in the lyric.

The verse is a dead verse. It means nothing in the lyric at all. So a rewrite was required.

Here's a rewrite of verse one along with the chorus again.(one of several being played out)

[RW V1]
My world came crashing to the ground
A simple word that knocked me down
You said goodbye, closed the door
I couldn't get up off the floor

[Chorus]
Big hearts fall hard
Big hearts fall hard
And if you wonder
Why it thunders
[cause]Big hearts fall hard

Now, I hope you can see the build up. In the verse I played out an action that leads up to the hook. And now, when you finally hear "Big Hearts Fall Hard", it makes perfect sense.

I hope you can "feel" the difference between the two verses. The rewrite really gets the point across that I was originally trying to make. And now the verse itself is much more interesting and more importantly builds up to the "hook".

So when you write your verse, take time and consideration of how your verse fits in with the hook.

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Best to you! And most of all, keep writing.

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I've often struggled with writing lyrics (actually always struggle and give up) The next time I try my hand at lyrics i'll apply what you have advised here. Useful info indeed, thankyou.

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Les--

Nice. Excellent job at getting the point across (and a nice lyric, too)! It is so easily overlooked because we as writers assume our audiences know what we're singing about, when they don't have a clue unless we tell them!

Another way that this technique may be described, all writers out there, is 'tension and release', creating tension by leading up to the chorus and then delivering the release, the hook.

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A band asked me to write some lyrics for them, they already had a title but they didn't have a song!!! It is more difficult if you have a title first so I had many difficulties on writing those songs... I finally finished one, but I have this so disturbing habit, I want every line of a verse to rime with each other. It sounds nicer but it gets so annoying sometimes because I can stay for 3 days just trying to find the right word. Sometimes I find the word and then try to fit it in the song. I know it is foolish but I can't help it... Many words fit so the results are often surprising!!! I will stick around so I can learn more things...


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A band asked me to write some lyrics for them, they already had a title but they didn't have a song!!! It is more difficult if you have a title first so I had many difficulties on writing those songs...
I've done that alot. It is more difficult, but sometimes ya just come up with the hook first and it happens to be the title!

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I finally finished one, but I have this so disturbing habit, I want every line of a verse to rime with each other. It sounds nicer but it gets so annoying sometimes because I can stay for 3 days just trying to find the right word. Sometimes I find the word and then try to fit it in the song. I know it is foolish but I can't help it... Many words fit so the results are often surprising!!! I will stick around so I can learn more things...
Oh, I know the feeling! I get stuck on the word or words that I really want to use and I hammer them into my brain so I can try and make them stick. lol. I'm alot better off when I put them on a shelf and start thinking about the lines differently.

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Thanks for the tips!!! I apppreciate it a lot!!! Sometimes words just don't stick... I had the word room An I found boom, doom and whom so I stuck and deleted the lyrics. After so many days... It was unbelievable!!! But many words are easy I've already got black- heart attack, blue- love you, green-seen, brown- drown and still working on it...! It is just that I have english as a second language and my native language is so different.!!!
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As i entered the lounge room
i saw it was my doom
she assulted me with a broom
cuz id been downin a schoon

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I'm a rhyme freak too. I guess that's how I was brought up as a child. But that's not a bad thing. Although, rhymes can get boring. Hence the whole ABAB, AABB type things.
I like to do ABCB verses as well. Or even ACBB type things.

I do avoid, AAAA schemes. That gets old really quick. Few people except for the likes of Dylan can pull those off.

But don't get hung up with rhymes. If you're rhyme heavy try to mix it up a bit with alliteration. Although, go easy with it. Alliterations can sound very forced, so keep a light hand on them. An excellent trick is to use "internal rhyming". For example, if you have an 8 syllable line, have syllables #4 and #8 rhyme.

In reality though, by far, the vast majority of English languages lyrics rhyme. But don't be afraid to write outside the formula.

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Sometimes words just don't stick...
And that's why they call it "word crafting" and not lyric writing.

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...It is just that I have english as a second language and my native language is so different.!!!
See you around
Wow, yah, that would make it difficult. It's hard for me to imagine. I love rhymes and rhyming, and I try and be as clever as I can. But for me, it's mostly about telling a story. It's not about just finding words that fit. If I come up with a clever rhyme, I'm not satisfied unless it fits the story...otherwise it will seem trite. I'd much rather come up with a near-rhyme if it fits the tale...

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...An excellent trick is to use "internal rhyming". For example, if you have an 8 syllable line, have syllables #4 and #8 rhyme.
Right on! I love using this. Another twist I like, and I actually prefer this one more, is to have, say, syllable #4 rhyme from the previous line...


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Well what I've written is:



When I come into the room
Better call it room of doom
I see you in the bed
And you've turned away you head.
And I see...

This is gonna be an endless night
Cause we just have had a fight
When ..I turned of the light
I finally saw...
That it was gonna be an endless night

When I woke up in the room
My heart suddenly goes boom
Then I notice it is noon
I've better gone while it is soon
Cause now I know...

It was an endless night...
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It a really stupid song it hasn't got the same amount of words in every line but it was the best I could do


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Like all things, it just takes a bit of practice...I write lyrics for my band (singer can't write)

The endless night idea is good...appeal more to the emotions, and people do that in different ways...personally I like using metaphors...I hope I'm not being too cliche here but...heres what I mean. (I hope you don't mind me using your song to give an example).

Entering carefully into the room
my heart senses the fear and doom
your limp as lead upon the bed
Turning away your head
And I see...

Your song isn't bad in it's base idea, I think it needs a little bit of restructuring, and you're good...but think about what the people in your song are feeling...or what you personally as an artist is trying to portray in the song. You can take that from me if you want, but I recommend you write your own.

Hope I could help,

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~ENDLESS NIGHT~

As I walk into the room
Better call it room of doom
I see you in the bed
And you've turned away your head
And I know......

Chorus:
This is going to be an edless night
'Cause we had another fight
Everytime I say it,..I sigh
But our situation isn't bright

As you walk out of the room
I... look outside the moon
Now I know that we are done
By noon I must be gone
And now I'm sure....

That was our last and endless night
'Cause we had another fight
Everytime I said I alwayssighed
But our situation wasn't bright..


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That's some sound advice. Thank you for posting it. One question, does a hook have to be exceptionally short or can it occasionally be a little longer?

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