[delondcosta27]

allrighty ...... not sure if this is the place to post it ......but im gonna anyway.

ok i just made up this lil riff for a lil song(heh)
e ------------------------------------------
B ----0----0----0---0----0----0-------------
G ------7----7--------7----7----------------
D --5-----5----5---4----4----4-------------- x2times
A ------------------------------------------ then continue to nxt bar
E ------------------------------------------

e ----------------------
B ----0-------0------0--
G ------0---------------
D --2-------2------4---- x2times
A --------3------5------
E ----------------------

now here's the thing.....i dunno wut to put next.. cuz i dunno wut key this is in...
can someone tell me which note its in and why/how( i know very little about how u get keys)
im into lead guitar and i have an electric so this key business is extremely important to me at the moment.how does it work!!i saw some posts and tht just tells me how to find a key if your using a chord and i didnt get it completely either

[delondcosta27]

oh i almost forgot..............wut scale wut u reccomend???its supposed to b like a slow rock song sumtin like switchfoot-daisy

[allthumbs]

Hmmm. I will take a crack at it. It is so much easier if you start with the chords first. It looks like It could be in either the key of G or the Key of C . Till you throw in a third chord, It could go either way. Key of G contains G,C, and D for a I,IV,V progression. Key of C contains C,F,G I,IV,V. There are variations which i will explain.
The 075 pattern is a G chord. 3, 5,1 intervals. The 074 is a GMaj7 chord. intervals 3,5,natural 7.
The 002 and 023 are a CMaj7. The 045 is an A minor because of that open B string. If you wanted to continue the feel of major7th, fret the B string at the second fret, 245 which makes it a DMaj7, a step up.
The A minor fits in either key. A ii chord in the key of G or a vi in the key of C. So you need one more chord to resolve the key.
You can think of the DMaj7 as a majorized ii chord in the key of C or a passing chord on the way to a D chord in the key of G, There are so many directions and chord substitutions you can make that this post could go on and on and I have probably confused you enough. This is not my strong point so one of the better players may have a completely different take on what's going on here.

[allthumbs]

I forgot to mention that The next chord to try would be a D chord in the Key of G and an F chord ,which is the IV chord in the Key of C. I would add an FMaJ7 between the G and C chord,if I decided that I wanted it to be in the Key of C. I don't play through scales so I can't help you there.

[delondcosta27]

my thankz .........but.. eh?
ok here are my questions from ur reply....

howd u get the names of the chords ??like 075 was G - how'd you get that it was a G major scale i was using??couldnt it have been any other scale with just weird intervals?
its notes were g d b so couldnt it be..umm...sumtin else?
you seem to have gotten the key just by looking at it,how?

wut does DMaj7 as a majorized ii chord in the key of C and..D chord in the Key of G??


and wut did u mean by you need one more chord to resolve the key?

ok i'v had enought brainfar*s(not sure if i can say tht,hehe)for the day imma go to bed plsssssssssss sum1 help me solve my key dilema's refer a link or try to xplain it like some of the lessons on this site(pure genius that was) anytin!!!!

[allthumbs]

I know where chords go on the fretboard so it is just a matter of looking for what chords fit the notes you have scored. It can be tricky because chords played in certain positions on the neck have more than one name. It is just experience that allows you to figure it out. I look at the intervals or numbers for the chord. A basic chord is defined by 3 intervals,1(root)3 which determines if the chord is major or minor (3 or b3) and 5 which is a more neutral ,but important part of a Chord. I know the intervals for the variations of the basic chords ie. A major 7 chord has a natural 7 instead of a 1 while a plain 7th chord has a b7.
There is a post here somewhere on progresions and circle of 5ths that will help you understand song structure a little more. It is worth paying close attention to the theory above the tabs in the lessons if you want to get a handle on understanding this stuff.
There are 7 chords to a key,some minor and some major. The Caps are major and small letters( really numbers,Roman numerals) are the minor chords.
I,ii,iii,IV,V,vi,vii. In the key of C. ii would be a Dm for instance. It is not uncommon for song writers to majorize a minor chord if it fits what they want to hear so they will turn in into a D chord. They can also minorize a major chord. This is a very rich and deep subject. Not something you can swallow whole. It will take time to absorb it and you never stop learning. I know some basic progressions so I looked for where those chords would fit in a key which allowed me to see what other chords would likely fit with them.
I wasn't looking at scales at all. I just treated the notes as notes in a chord. The same notes in a scale are the same notes in a chord for the most part. This is a big reason why I like playing through chords. It provides me with a wealth of information when you know your intervals. Scales provide much less info to work with.
This is a lot of stuff to grasp so you might want to keep it simple for now.Pick a key, pick chords from the key and noodle with them. Pick a Key first,much easier than playing a riff and then trying to figure out the chords and key after.