[nagukush]

Hi All

I'm having a lot of difficulty when changing from the E minor(Open-Chord) to this B minor (Barre Chord Shape). I've been practicing only to change smoothly between these (as my song is pending for the last 3-4 Days only because of this) for the Last 3 Days !!!

I need to change from Em to Bm and then back again (while playing the Finger-Picking Pattern). I do it almost correctly when done very-very slowly, but I've learnt the rest of this song so well, that as soon as this part comes, I've to slow way too down to get it right, and that too not very correctly. This is my First Finger-Style arrangment, where I'm using a Barre Chord (infact I'm actually using the Barre Chord for the First time Practically)

Please help me with this
Kindest Regards and Lots of Care
Kush

[Bennett]

Barre chords take quite awhile to get down pat, and even more so when using them with fingerpicking imo.

About all I could suggest would be to try not only going from Em to Bm, but also all of the open chords to Bm. Also maybe try going from other barre chords to Bm.

Actually, there's a good article over at Guitar Noise that was talking about a technique for improving chord changes. I'll go dig it up for ya.

EDIT: The lesson can be found here

Good luck mate, I'm sure it'll come in time.

[nagukush]

Originally Posted by Bennett

Barre chords take quite awhile to get down pat, and even more so when using them with fingerpicking imo.

About all I could suggest would be to try not only going from Em to Bm, but also all of the open chords to Bm. Also maybe try going from other barre chords to Bm.

Actually, there's a good article over at Guitar Noise that was talking about a technique for improving chord changes. I'll go dig it up for ya.

EDIT: The lesson can be found here
Good luck mate, I'm sure it'll come in time.

Hi Pal !!!

Thankyou so much for caring !!! The article is really useful !!! Thanks again for being so kind and friendly I'm sure this will make me achieve this Chord-Change

Lots of Regards and Thanks
Kush

[Nem]

the way i make the Em - Bm change:

play the Em with your middle finger on the A string (which is a B note) and your ring finger on the D string on the E note

when you make the switch to Bm, slide your ring finger up to the F# on the D string then the other notes will just fall into place as a regular A shaped barre chord

so basically youre using your ring finger to make the transition, you use it to slide from one chord into another which makes it a bit smoother

I hope that makes sense :s

[nagukush]

Originally Posted by Nem

the way i make the Em - Bm change:
play the Em with your middle finger on the A string (which is a B note) and your ring finger on the D string on the E note
when you make the switch to Bm, slide your ring finger up to the F# on the D string then the other notes will just fall into place as a regular A shaped barre chord
so basically youre using your ring finger to make the transition, you use it to slide from one chord into another which makes it a bit smoother
I hope that makes sense :s

Hi Nem !!!

I think that sure makes a lot of sense ! I did'nt think of it before atall !!! Thank you so much for that, I think this will make my life much easier !!!! If I'm not wrong (maybe I'm, please correct me if I'm) is'nt this like the concept of "Pivots and Guides" which are concepts for Efficient Chord Changes ?

Anyways thankyou so much for caring !

Kindest Regards
Kush

[slejhamer]

Originally Posted by Nem

when you make the switch to Bm, slide your ring finger up to the F# on the D string then the other notes will just fall into place as a regular A shaped barre chord

Sliding up the D string to the F# note is a great idea (though you'd want to use the Am shaped barre there, not the A shape to get a Bm. )

Kush, you could also try a different voicing:

x x 0 4 3 2 (that's D-B-D-F#, so the bass note isn't B but it's still a Bm chord).

or even a basic Bm 5-1-b3 triad: x x 4 4 3 x (F#-B-D) though that may sound a bit thin, depending on the song and how prominent that chord is.

[nagukush]

Originally Posted by slejhamer

Sliding up the D string to the F# note is a great idea (though you'd want to use the Am shaped barre there, not the A shape to get a Bm. )
Kush, you could also try a different voicing:
x x 0 4 3 2 (that's D-B-D-F#, so the bass note isn't B but it's still a Bm chord).
or even a basic Bm 5-1-b3 triad: x x 4 4 3 x (F#-B-D) though that may sound a bit thin, depending on the song and how prominent that chord is.

Hi there Buddy

Actually I need to play the Barre-Chord (Am shaped) as suggested by Nem. Sorry I did'nt notice that its the Am Shaped and not the A shaped. Just a mis-type I guess

AnywaysThankyou so much for Caring and helping me out Friends !!!

Kindest Regards
Kush

[USGold]

I guess it's redundant by now but-I just use
2 2 4 4 3 2.

[737blues]

As USGold says, or simply x x 4 4 3 2 (might fit better you're picking an acoustic piece)

I often play 'open' triad E's, A's, D's and their associated minors with my 2, 3, 4 fingers or my 1, 2, 3 which leaves my 1 (index) finger free for barres, or in this case, the F# but more importantly for me, it keeps my pinky working. I've been doing this for a while now and I find I can switch between these finger combinations without conscious effort.

If you choose to use fingers 3 and 4 to fret the E minor, (and I would here) it's very easy to just move those fingers up and over for the fourth string F# and B. My 1 and 2 fingers then seem to go to the D and the top F# pretty much by themselves. (Muscle memory, I guess) You can extend the same idea to your right hand too, especially if you want to learn to hybrid pick. Something I find really hard, BTW. ( )

My goal is to have equal proficiency with any finger, of either hand.

[nagukush]

Originally Posted by 737blues

As USGold says, or simply x x 4 4 3 2 (might fit better you're picking an acoustic piece)
I often play 'open' triad E's, A's, D's and their associated minors with my 2, 3, 4 fingers or my 1, 2, 3 which leaves my 1 (index) finger free for barres, or in this case, the F# but more importantly for me, it keeps my pinky working. I've been doing this for a while now and I find I can switch between these finger combinations without conscious effort.
If you choose to use fingers 3 and 4 to fret the E minor, (and I would here) it's very easy to just move those fingers up and over for the fourth string F# and B. My 1 and 2 fingers then seem to go to the D and the top F# pretty much by themselves. (Muscle memory, I guess) You can extend the same idea to your right hand too, especially if you want to learn to hybrid pick. Something I find really hard, BTW. ( )
My goal is to have equal proficiency with any finger, of either hand.

Hi Buudy

Thankyou so much for the kind advice. I guess you are absoultely right. I think I'll start using my Pinky for different chords too ! I usually train my Pinky everyday with various exercises (and I feel its in good control, atleast better than what I had better)

Thankyou so much for caring and for the great advice

Kindest Regards
Kush

[Brian Hill]

Theres really is no quick fix to learning bar chords. The main problem lies in the strength off your hand and fingers. To play a bar chord properly requires a good amount of strength in the hand , fingers and forearm. Play till it hurts is the moto and also play the patern at all positions on the neck and move the pinky around to change the chord voicings and give it dexterity. Good luck

BH

[nagukush]

Originally Posted by Brian Hill

Theres really is no quick fix to learning bar chords. The main problem lies in the strength off your hand and fingers. To play a bar chord properly requires a good amount of strength in the hand , fingers and forearm. Play till it hurts is the moto and also play the patern at all positions on the neck and move the pinky around to change the chord voicings and give it dexterity. Good luck

BH

Hello Sir !!!
I've been practicing Barre chords for a while now, though I'm using one for the First time in a song. I feel I've developed atleast some strength for executing them(though not very much). I can play them smoothly when not using in a Song Arrangment, but now when I'm actually using one, I just cant place my hand in the Right position. I get it approximately, but I miss some of the notes(or even completely)

Is it because I'm not concentrating on the change properly ? Or should I practice them seperately for more time, till I get very-very comfortable doin them, before using in a song ?

Kindly advice Sir. Thankyou so much caring

Kindest Regards and lots of Care
Kush

[Brian Hill]

Originally Posted by nagukush

Hello Sir !!!
I've been practicing Barre chords for a while now, though I'm using one for the First time in a song. I feel I've developed atleast some strength for executing them(though not very much). I can play them smoothly when not using in a Song Arrangment, but now when I'm actually using one, I just cant place my hand in the Right position. I get it approximately, but I miss some of the notes(or even completely)

Is it because I'm not concentrating on the change properly ? Or should I practice them seperately for more time, till I get very-very comfortable doin them, before using in a song ?

Kindly advice Sir. Thankyou so much caring

Kindest Regards and lots of Care
Kush

You can call me Brian. Were all friends here I would suggest playing just that one chord using a chunky Bo Diddly type rythum and go off and on with the chord using a flat palm mute at times. That way you don't have to concentrate on any thing else but that chord and you'll develop your finger memory and also its an exercise with musical form with it's own benifits.

[nagukush]

Originally Posted by Brian Hill

You can call me Brian. Were all friends here I would suggest playing just that one chord using a chunky Bo Diddly type rythum and go off and on with the chord using a flat palm mute at times. That way you don't have to concentrate on any thing else but that chord and you'll develop your finger memory and also its an exercise with musical form with it's own benifits.

Yes very True ! Sorry if I've been annoying you by Calling you "Sir", I was just paying respect to the Huge-Guitar-Experience (which I feel is very Great and I'd love to have after thirty years, I hope I dont quit in between ) Anyways I should be Positive in thoughts, I guess.

So How're you doin Pal ? Thanks for caring !!! Thanks for exercise too !!!

Lots of Care and Regards
Kush

[Brian Hill]

Originally Posted by nagukush

Yes very True ! Sorry if I've been annoying you by Calling you "Sir", I was just paying respect to the Huge-Guitar-Experience (which I feel is very Great and I'd love to have after thirty years, I hope I dont quit in between ) Anyways I should be Positive in thoughts, I guess.

So How're you doin Pal ? Thanks for caring !!! Thanks for exercise too !!!

Lots of Care and Regards
Kush

Hi Kush. Your not annoying me in the least. I like talking to you very much. I'm glad to help. Don't ever quit playing because what you'll learn will affect your life in positive ways nothing else but music can do. It's one of the most primitive of human expressions, probably older than language itself and nobody can ever take it from you. I don't know if you realize it or not but you live in a place that's unique in regards to music,. Traditional Indian music doesn't follow the laws of western civilizations musical form and if one studies and combines it with western music it'll open doors to a unique personal expression of music. Many great players have done just that and if it were not for the influence of your musical culture we would not have allot of great modern music, especially rock and roll as it is today and in the past. It's as influential as the blues was to rock and roll. Take care buddy!

BH