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Old May 17th, 2008
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Hi All,
I am at a stage now where I want to broaden my playing styles and as such I am working from a book which includes all the various styles but I just wanted to check a couple of things out with the knowledge on this site.

1. Is playing downstrums on both the on and off beats a recognised Technique?

2. Also there is a section on "the swing rhythm" where the upstokes are played just before the downstrokes rather than in the middle. (This goes against everything I have learned regarding rhythm so far)

Please if anyone has any thoughts on the above i would be most grateful. Also if they are recognised techniques, how often would they be used in playing?

Many thanks.

Nick.

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Hi Mick.

Swing rhythm is extremely common and important, especially in blues, rock and roll, jazz. I'm going to assume you just don't understand the term, because you will definitely be familiar with it. It's that rocking back and forth rhythm used most obviously in songs such as Little Red Rooster (Rolling Stones) and Cold Shot by Stevie Ray Vaughan. Technically it is playing in triplets but leaving the middle note out. So instead of 123 223 323 423, you get 1---3 2---3 3---3 4---3.

Basically you can have either a straight feel or a swing feel.

As for your first question, the answer is yes. Most definitley, depending on the song.
If a song is in "8ths" (ie 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and), then you'd strum down on every beat and up on the "ands." DUDUDUDU, or some variation on that, like D D DUD.

If a song is in 16ths (and most songs I strum are), the rhythm is 1-a-and-a-2-a-and-a-3-a-and-a-4-a-and-a. In that case, you'd strum down on the beats as well as the "ands." As a matter of fact, it's critical that you do. You've got to keep that right hand going up and down in time with the music, never stopping. You might miss strums out on purpose, but that hand keeps moving up and down in time. You always, always, have your right hand moving down on the beat. That's the key.

Have a look at the thread on country/ rock strumming. There are a couple of links in it well worth checking out. Hope that helps.

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Hi Noodler,
Thanks fro the great info, I'll keep going on the swing rhythm. The song with all downstrums though is played in eigth notes all played with downstrums. The counting is 1&2&3&4&, all played with downstrums obviously with the beat accented heavier than the off beat downstrum.

Many thanks once again.

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Oh yeah, that's a valid technique too. A lot of Metallica songs are like that. The down strokes are supposed to be more even and consistent. I'd also play the verses of Summer of 69 (Bryan Adams) as all downstrokes. I notice that in both those cases, they are power chord songs ie not strumming a full chord.

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