... in the name of guitar
Lost your password or username? Click here

Not a member already? Join now It's free!
PlaneTalk
GFB&B Radio
Members Online: 300 | Discussions: 20,433 | Replies 214,045 | Members: 92,711 | Register here

 
If you are seeing this text, you need to download the latest version of Flash Player here.

Welcome to the Guitar For Beginners & Beyond Forum, the fastest growing Guitar Community on the Internet.

You are currently viewing our site as a guest which limits your access to many of the great features available. By joining our free community you will gain access to over 100 free guitar lessons, be able to post topics, ask questions and communicate with other members (currently we have close to 80,000 guitar players from all over the World). By becoming a member, you will also be able to respond to polls, upload and get feedback on your playing and access many other special features... Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, so why not join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Playing The Guitar The mechanics of playing guitar. Discuss and ask questions about styles and techniques here.

Forum Home > Guitar For Beginners & Beyond General Forum > Playing The Guitar > a bit stuck


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old August 23rd, 2007
plaind plaind is offline
Newcomer

Playing guitar for over a year.
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Last Online: April 17th, 2008 12:49 AM
Location: canada
Posts: 28
a bit stuck

hey everyone.

i am looking for something of a lesson plan.
i have learned my chords and play them well.
now on to scales, hammer-ons, pull offs, tabs, blues (soloing).

i just dont know what my next should be.
its been a bit rough and i just need a bit of guidance to start moving forward again.

this site is great!
i look forward to all the responses.

plaind

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old August 23rd, 2007
AX7221's Avatar
AX7221 AX7221 is offline
Member

Playing guitar for over 5 years.
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Last Online: May 31st, 2008 09:44 PM
Location: Massachusetts, US
Posts: 252


That's a difficult question, I'll do my best to answer it, but first I have a question for you, then I can do a better job answering yours. In general what do you want to sound like? Or if you were a wicked good guitarist what would you be able to do? Would want to play like Jack Johnson or B. B. King, or someone like Jerry Garcia? In other words do you want to be good at playing songs that are guitar and vocals, using chords? Do you want to have a bluesy sound? Or do you want to be able to improvise things? With guitar there are so many directions to go down that it's difficult for me to offer a generic response since I don't know what you're aiming for. So the more specific you are or the more descriptive you are the better responses people (me included) will give.

Okay, so I'm gonna do my best at a generic response. Well I'm geared almost entirely towards improvising. However in order to improvise the musician in a sense has to be a complete musician, so I'll talk about stuff I do, but I'm sure it's helpful in any way. The advice I always give is to use the chords you know to make stuff up. Find things that you like playing and try out different strumming for them. There are basically 2 sets of chords I'll use:
the relative chords for the A minor and C major scales:
Am, Bdimº7, C, Dm, Em, F, G
and the
relative chords for the E minor and G major scales:
Em, F#dimº7, G, Am, Bm, C, D
So in the key of A minor the V (roman numeral) chord is Em, and in the key of E minor the V chord is Bm, so in the respecive keys Em and Bm will sound very similar (going up to a fifth, key of Am, is different than going down to a fifth, key of Em), meaning the V chord has it's own sound, same with the rest of the chords, so by doing this you can learn what each chord (in roman numerals) sounds like.
These chords come from music theory, and one problem that people do is they allow music theory to box them in (I've done this). So, for example you can change any of these chords from major to minor, or vice versa and it should be fine.
(also the relative chords for A Gypsy are: Am, E, F, Fm, Fdimº7, G, Gm. So if someone lets themselves get boxed into the diatonic scales they would, in a sense, be saying you can't play other scales like the Gypsy scale which is obiviously wrong.)

So back on track: By doing that you will get a feel for the 12 notes we have to work with. Right now I sometimes use a computer program to play random notes then I repeat it to also better get a feel for our 12 notes. That's all I can think of for generic advise.


If you learn how to play songs, then you learn songs. If you learn how to improvise, then you learn music.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old August 24th, 2007
tomg123 tomg123 is offline
Grand Member
donating member

Playing guitar for over a year.
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Last Online: 11 Hours Ago 01:47 AM
Location: new jersey
Posts: 1,912


If you don't have a teacher then search out the net. There are lessons on this forum and all over. There are actual videos of top notch players showing you things. Pick one you like and learn it at your own pace, all lessons no matter what they are tend make other things you do unrelated to that lesson some how easier. You can still practice things you know, to stay sharp

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old August 24th, 2007
solidwalnut's Avatar
solidwalnut solidwalnut is offline
Moderator | Lesson Contributor

Playing guitar for what seems like forever.
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Last Online: 20 Hours Ago 04:27 PM
Location: Phoenix, AZ USA
Posts: 1,402


Quote:
Originally Posted by plaind View Post
hey everyone.

i am looking for something of a lesson plan.
i have learned my chords and play them well.
now on to scales, hammer-ons, pull offs, tabs, blues (soloing).

i just dont know what my next should be.
its been a bit rough and i just need a bit of guidance to start moving forward again.

this site is great!
i look forward to all the responses.

plaind
Yep, that's always the tough part. When I first began learning (pssst, hey, even after I'd been learning for many years...) I'd reach plateus and say to myself, 'well now what!!'.

There are many lesson plans out there; many roads you could take. Here's some advice from an old man (relatively, I assume!...at least in the playing dept.): YOU make that plan.

I see by your biography that:

playing guitar for 3yrs.
ready to play some blues.
looking for help w/ blues and blues soloing
tabs!!!


Begin by becoming a great rhythm guitarist. That's the mark of great lead guitarists. You have the basic chords down, now learn how to switch between them quickly and effectively. Learn a bit about playing rhythm.

Break your learning into two major departments: mechanical and music theory. Kirk has some great mechanical lessons, so pick up on some of these areas.

The other area mechanically you should spend some time with is learning the fretboard. There are two main ways to approach this, and I recommend learning the CAGED theory through Kirk's lesson The Anatomy of a C Major Guitar Chord, where you'll get a great graphic how how the fretboard is layed out and how the CAGE and D chord formations connect to each other on the neck.

No sense drowning yourself with stuff that you don't find important for now, just pick up on the stuff that does make sense to you. Now insert a little music theory. You'll see that in Kirk's C Chord lesson, but also it's good to learn a bit about basic music theory 'cause you'll see how that applies to the fretboard. Start with notes and work your way through Kirk's lesson set there.

Basics are not to be ignored. They'll get you where you want to go. So now you've gone through some of Kirk's. Check out my series of lessons on The Major Scale Chart.

Now go back and apply some of this basic theory with how it looks on the fretboard.

And I know you want to get into some blues playing! Learn what the difference is in the major scale vs. the minor scales vs. the blues scale. I'm not saying learn to play these scales, I'm saying to learn the components of them and how they compare.

Now some of those 'minor pentatonic' riffs you've been trying to find will start to make some sense. Start bluesifying some of those pentatonics and start playing to some blues backing tracks you'll find here and here.

Keep in mind there are other really great lessons here from some really great players.

And just keep revisiting the basics. That's what's going to make you a great guitar player.

All the best,

Steve


Steve Cass
Solid Walnut Music/ASCAP

Becoming a great guitarist has less to do with fancy moves than it does becoming a master of the basics and learning musicianship.
It's not what you can't do. It's how you play what you already know.

Lessons for the Beginner and Beyond
"Rhythm guitar is a trip that alot of people miss"
-- Tom Petty
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old August 24th, 2007
plaind plaind is offline
Newcomer

Playing guitar for over a year.
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Last Online: April 17th, 2008 12:49 AM
Location: canada
Posts: 28


hey steve!
i really appreciate the info, tips, advice, and recommendation.
i love to learn, but i hate getting stuck and not knowing where to turn.
there is excitement again!
cheers,

plaind

Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Home > Guitar For Beginners & Beyond General Forum > Playing The Guitar > a bit stuck


The GfB&B Guitar Slide Rule

Download the PDF of the 'Guitar Chord Slide Rule', print it out, fold it together and you'll have at your disposal a very neat tool that will not only show you all the positions for the main flavors of chords, but will also teach you a very important lesson about how the guitar works... It consists of a folded sleeve and six double sided inserts, instructions for cutting it out and folding it together are included with the PDF ... it's very simple to do, and if you botch it, you can simply print it out again!

Buy it now for only $10

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:01 PM.

 



Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 ©2007, Crawlability, Inc.