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November 12th, 2006
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Kirk, how does your "Plain Talk" guitar course compare to Bill Edwards "Fretboard Logic"
reference series? Do they follow along on the same lines or does your course material look at the fretboard at a different angle? I understand in the "Fretboard Logic" series it deals with the CAGED system in a simplimatic way.
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Hi, Cedric01.
Believe it or not, I still haven't read Fretboard Logic, I've only seen snippets of it, so I can't really comment. I guess that any fretboard mapping system has to refer in some way or other to the CAGED template, since that is the way music and the fretboard come together. The editor of GuitarNoise.com, Nick Torres, who obviously has read Fretboard Logic, said PlaneTalk makes it look like brain surgery by comparison ... pretty much the same as allthumbs says.
Bottom line, though, there is only one fretboard layout ... but many ways of explaining it. From the feedback I've been getting ever since I started teaching it, that's where PT excels.
I must make a point of ordering Fretboard Logic!!
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I'll sell you mine for the price of a chardonnay, Kirk. PT leaves it in the dust!
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I have looked through Fretboard Logic a few times and I would have to say it's a jumbled mess. No comparison to the simplicity Kirk managed to achieve in PT.
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Originally Posted by bmurnahan
I have looked through Fretboard Logic a few times and I would have to say it's a jumbled mess. No comparison to the simplicity Kirk managed to achieve in PT.
Bob
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Good to hear, Bob. I've read Fretboard Logic a couple times, and it certainly didn't cause any light bulbs to go off in my head. I was able to pick bits and pieces of theory here and there, but there were no "A-HA!" moments to be found. My copy of PT should be arriving within the next day or two, so it'll be very interesting to draw a comparison between the two.
Mac
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November 13th, 2006
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There was a free intro chapter of Fret Logic on the net a couple of years ago. I took a look at it for about an hour then my dyslexia picked me up and shook me yelling what were you thinking. P.T. has my dyslexia purring.
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I've never even seen "Fretboard Logic" but from what I know of Plane Talk, it would be hard to beat!
"Good Music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and quits the memory with difficulty" Thomas Beecham
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Originally Posted by coldethyl
I've never even seen "Fretboard Logic" but from what I know of Plane Talk, it would be hard to beat!
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Neil - Having now read both PT and Fretboard Logic cover to cover, I can say (at least IMHO) that there's no comparison whatsoever between the two. I know I've only scratched the surface of PlaneTalk, but after reading it the first time it made things so much clearer to me right away than Fretboard Logic ever did.
Mac
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