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November 19th, 2006
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Shredding CAN be musical
And this guy proves it. Amazing. The good stuff starts about 1 minute 20 seconds in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXX_fEMf6Pg
What would Scooby Do?
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November 20th, 2006
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Sorry so stupid.......kinda new to all of this, but what is "shredding"?
thanks,
hb
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November 20th, 2006
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It's just a term for playing very fast like the guy in the video. He does it best than most however.
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November 20th, 2006
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Aaah... Shimizu, love the guy.
Certainly doesn't get the respect that he deserves.
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November 20th, 2006
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Anybody know what kind of guitar he's playing?
Walk softly, carry an M16
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November 20th, 2006
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Looks like an ESP Standard to me.
We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.
- George Bernard Shaw
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November 20th, 2006
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I do believe your right
Walk softly, carry an M16
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November 20th, 2006
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In my humble opinion it is still shredding with a bit of nice melody before it goes mad again. Whatever floats your boat at the end of day but this is not my float
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November 20th, 2006
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I remember reading something by Howard Roberts once about the the electric guitar being a relatively young instrument in the grand scheme of things. He talked about the need to develop speed and that when a guitarist develops chops it always stirs up an opinion.
He went on to say that you never hear anyone come out of a classical recital saying "boy that violin player sure could play fast." Its just taken for granted that to be a world class orchestal player or a soloist in the classical world you have to have great technique. Nobody gets put down for being a "shredder".
I know nobody has said that in this post but I have seen it before. This does seem to be a guitar only kind of thing. Why is that?
What's the difference between the video above and this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhqM8kS9ZFU
Why is one accepted as the norm and the other dismissed as shredding? Maybe Howard was onto something.
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November 20th, 2006
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"The seeds of our destiny are nurtured by the roots of our past." - Master Po
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November 21st, 2006
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Originally Posted by Cedric01
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Very Satriani-esque.
Mac
"I wish I could play that fast - then I would have the option of not doing that."
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November 23rd, 2006
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wow great videos
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November 23rd, 2006
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Originally Posted by bmurnahan
I know nobody has said that in this post but I have seen it before. This does seem to be a guitar only kind of thing. Why is that?
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Spend some time with trumpeters, and you will find the same thing.
No one else seems to get caught up in it.
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November 24th, 2006
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Originally Posted by scotty_b
Spend some time with trumpeters, and you will find the same thing.
No one else seems to get caught up in it.
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I think it's because an awful lot of guitar players learn to play fast while neglecting those aspects of technique that take shredding from a technical exercise towards something that's musical. There is a lack of subtlety, nuance and dynamics in some (not all) shred music that you do find in classical and jazz players even when they're playing at extreme speeds. Part of that has to do with playing through high gain amps with too much compression, part of it has to do with the lack of musical, as opposed to technical, training that guitarists receive.
A player in a world class orchestra has spent as much time working with teachers on interpretation as they have on technique. Our approach to interpretation is often just trying to cop a tune off records or arguing about how to approach a song with band members.......
Trumpeters will get caught up in the "what's the highest note" they can hit thing though!
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November 24th, 2006
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Trumpeters will get caught up in the "what's the highest note" they can hit thing though!
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Spend some time playing bebop gigs and you will find they are just as obsessed with speed as guitarists
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