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January 21st, 2007
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Hello All
Hello All,
I've been playing guitar for slightly over a year and hope to keep playing till I visit the other side.. Unfortunately I waited so long, in my early 40's already. I was interested in playing since my 20's and always did the air guitar thing. I like this site and am looking forward to learning alot more. I have a Fender Mexi fat strat and have beefed up the pickups with Fender Noiseless single coils and a Fender/Seymour Duncan humbucker. I'm happy with it that's for sure. I have a question about PlaneTalk but figured I'd better go over what I've learned so far. I know PT is not for beginners. So here goes..
I know the Am pentatonic in all 5 positions and learned 5 Diatonic two octave patterns that covers most of the fretboard. I can play these vertically or horizontally pretty well. I think I know most of the Barre Chord shapes but have some gotchas moving between them.. I understand a little about intervals and how chords are built and learned alot about keys and the chords that go with them from this site! I've taken quite a few online lessons but nothing in person with an instructor. I practice daily, not sure if I'm practicing the right stuff though. Usually I'll bounce around the 5 diatonic scales and do some chromatics just to keep the fret hand and picking hand moving on a daily basis. I know the CAGED chords and many others no need to list the here. I don't want to forget what I've already learned it took so long...
We'll now that I've typed out a saga here what about PT for me? Thanks in advance for your response.
Kind Regards,
Bob Tedesco 
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January 21st, 2007
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Sounds like it. P.T. will weave all that you have learned into one integrated whole. It's greatest strength is in giving you the ability to improv melodically over what ever you choose. Are you at the point where that is something you are ready to focus on?
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January 21st, 2007
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Thanks for the response. I'd like to learn how to use the whole Fretboard and have things sound like Music if that's what you mean. For instance I try to practice solo over a chord progression using the Diatonic patterns I learned and it sounds very scalish. The same goes for the Pentatonics.. It sounds like I'm lacking Harmony or Melody?? Maybe it's just me... Also when I said I know the CAGED chords its only the chords not the CAGED "system". I know those chords in several flavors like open/Barred Major-Minor etc. I just noticed today that Kirk did a CAGED lesson I guess sometime ago and it looks pretty good.
The Diatonics I learned are from GIT so I don't know if they follow a standard interval. I know they are the same group of notes for each pattern and they have two root notes per pattern. If you want to change keys you need to know where the roots notes are and move that up down the neck to another key. Kind of clumsy explanation. I should be correct though.
I have learned a couple of Beginner Rock/Pop songs but sometimes I just like to come up with something myself.
Kind Regards,
Bob
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January 21st, 2007
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It is not uncommon for players to get into P.T. for that very reason. They feel like they are stuck in a pent or scale rut and are looking for a different way to perceive the fretboard.
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January 21st, 2007
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Am I doing something wrong? I just don't want to learn scale after scale like I was looking at the blues scale but I'd like to put what I already know into better use. Or make it sound more like Music not scales. Sounds like PT is for me I was just worried since it metions it's not for beginners. How long does it take become accustomed to the PT way? It doesn't force you to forget what you already know, right?
I do need to get better at several things like bends/hammer ons and chord changes. I'm not some shredder. Practice, Practice, Practice.
Thanks,
Bob
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January 21st, 2007
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This will give you a better idea.
PlaneTalk Frequently asked Questions
Nothing wrong with knowing scales, especially the chromatic scale. I don't think in scales or pents in my playing though there are probably bits and pieces of them in how I play. Once you know P.T., scales tend to be easily visible if you choose to look for them.
Depending on your skill level and amount of practice, a couple of weeks or months to hear some improvement. A life time and more to completely master it.
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January 21st, 2007
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It's already on order! I'm goin to give PT a shot! Once I get it I'm sure I'll be practicing like crazy.. Sounds like I will never master it but hopefully some improvement will come fast.
Thanks,
Bob
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January 21st, 2007
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Originally Posted by tedescor
It's already on order! I'm goin to give PT a shot! Once I get it I'm sure I'll be practicing like crazy.. Sounds like I will never master it but hopefully some improvement will come fast.
Thanks,
Bob
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You will have a lot of help from the members on the P.T. forum if you need it as well as lessons about P.T.
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January 22nd, 2007
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G'day Bob, welcome aboard
Make me a sandwich <<>> NO! Make it yourself
sudo make me a sandwich <<>> OK
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January 22nd, 2007
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Welc  me Bob!
"Good Music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and quits the memory with difficulty" Thomas Beecham
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January 26th, 2007
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Can't wait to get my hands on PT!
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