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[codazoda]

I'm trying to learn "Day Tripper" by the Beetles. It starts out with only E7 an A7. I can't play either, but I can play E and A on the first fret and someone said playing E instead of E7 (minus the 4th) would work. Great, maybe I can learn this...

E7, however, can be played on the 1st, 4th, 7th, and 9th frets (with different shapes that I don't know yet). If my ear is not tuned, how can I tell which of these E7's they played the original son in? Do they have a special name or mark based on what fret they are played on?

I'm guessing I could also play E and A using a capo at some fret to make it playable until I learn bar chords. Heck, maybe I could play it with an E and A power chord instead?

Joel

[OldG]

I play Day Tripper like this....


Make an E - lift your ring finger off the board and you get E7. Now make an A - lift your middle finger off and you get A7.

[codazoda]

That's pretty easy.

I learned by E on the first fret. Is that where you would play this song? Or, do you need to learn an E somewhere else, like 7th fret?

Joel

[OldG]

http://jguitar.com/c...oot=E&chord=7th


http://jguitar.com/c...oot=A&chord=7th

[OldG]

Chord diagrams came from here... http://jguitar.com/c...?chordsearch=A7

[codazoda]

So... I'm still missing something. I've seen those chord diagrams. To me, they look like they are played near the nut on the guitar fingers on the 1st and 2nd frets.

The information I'm finding on the net is confusing me though because I see it in various ways and in various places on the neck.

Your example says to play it on frets 1 and 2 with two notes. I presume it's called an E chord because the 6th string open is E and that starts the chord (without understanding more than the fact that an E chord includes an E note).

About.com shows it played on the 7th fret. I presume the About.com example works because the 7th fret of the A string is "E". They give a second example on the 12th fret.
http://guitar.about....blchord_e75.htm

That being the case, there are E notes all over the fret board. Does that mean there are also E chords all over the fret board and by extension there are E7 chords all over the fret board? That seems to be the case and, if so, I'm confused about how to tell which of these E7 chords should be played. They certainly do not sound the same. I presume they are E7 chords in different keys. Your chord example, then, is an E7 chord in the key of E? Is the About.com example and E7 cord in the key of A?

By asking you questions, I think I just answered my question. Feel free to verify my ramblings.

My song choice, Day Tripper, seems to have been originally played in the key of E. In which case, I need only your E7 chord example which is an E7 in the key of E. I know this chord so should be able to start there.

Thanks,
Joel

[OldG]

Yes to everything but keys (register is a better description).... E7 is always E wherever you play it. the About. com link shows an E7 an octave higher than when played 'open'.

An E7 has E,B,D and Ab, these notes occur all over the board and chords,partial chords etc can in turn be played using any of them - same goes for any chord you choose...

[codazoda]

According to the chart below you can play an E chord in the key of E and the key of A. E7 is not listed, but it's just an E with an extra note added, right? So, I'm still confused. Am I wrong to think that you can play an E7 in either the key of A or the key of E?

http://www.ehow.com/...uying-book.html

Joel

[codazoda]

Actually... I see that the E is the same in both keys. So, it's the same chord; it just exists in both keys.

Sorry, trying to get this through my head...

Joel

[OldG]

'7' chords are used a lot in blues and jazz etc - it's a great way to add tension to a chord progression. Anywhere and any key its up to you...thats what I love about music - if it sounds right, it is right!