[randomaire]

After listening to this song:
Life on the Open Waves

For those of you that record your songs, could you please post also what you set your amp on, like chorus, delay, effects, bass, treble etc. This is just a request, because some of the songs have some real beautiful sounds that I just can't seem to figure out how to get on my amp.

Thank you all.

[OldG]

Heres my take on this one...

Guitars recorded directly into the computer will tend to sound a little different to the sound you would get from your amp.
Also, recorded guitar lends itself to post production compression ,reverb,chorus etc - which will give a different sound to your amp with the same settings if you recorded that way... Try recording the same riff through your amp and then directly into your 'puter to see what I mean. My personal preference is not to record reverb but add it afterwards, as it tends to make the sound 'distant' - but I digress...

Out of interest, which sounds on andmoreagain's tune are you trying to get? It's a well recorded, nicely mixed piece that (if I'm not mistaken) has been enhanced with added samples and Midi generated strings - Beautiful, I agree.

[Lcjones]

I'm not positive but I think many of the posters use an amp modeling tool. I have a Line6 Pod which has 32 different amp emulations. They range from the old Tweed Fenders and VOX AC30's to modern stuff I've never heard of. Plus you can create your own sounds if you want.

It just depends on what sound appeals to you. But if you're trying to get a specific sound that particular player has, you need to find out what kind of equipment they have and go from there. Some of the old-timers (Kirk) can probably tell you who is using what just by listening to a few bars. Or sitting in a few bars. Which ever comes first!

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[randomaire]

Yeah maybe I should have been a bit clearer there eh?

What I was asking was ... well lets go this way.. If I'm trying to get a bluesy sound just through the amp, what should I look for? If I'm trying to get that pink floyd sound just through the amp, etc....

I see what you're saying though with what effects they put on the recording and such, and its going to vary, just kind of wondered maybe what settings they were using, if they record it plain, you still have to add a certain something say chorus or bass, etc.

This is kind of hard to explain I guess now that I really think about it, just loved some of the different sounds coming out of these guitars and wondered if there is a basic setup or formula for what effects to use. (Purely on the basic level, not the effects added onto the recording after you've already recorded the guitar) I hope this makes more sense.

[Tekker]

This sounds like a good topic for a lesson. I could post some audio clips of effects settings using the free plugins mentioned here and also the preset files.... This way everyone can load my settings in directly and then start tweaking with them.

You could also apply these settings to your amp or other effects unit. For settings with multiple effects (chorus, delay, reverb, etc) all mixed together, you would be able to listen to each effect individually and reproduce that sound on your amp or effects pedal.

Would anyone be interested in something like this?

-tkr

[randomaire]

You know I would tkr

[allthumbs]

That would be great Tekker

[justinthyme]

That has my vote, Tekker!!

[Tekker]

Ok, I'll try to make some clips over the weekend. I've got a big test in one of my classes this week. So once that is done, I should have some free time to put this together..... If all goes according to plan that is.

-tkr

[Matty22]

Perhaps a lesson on tone in itself....
When i look at my amp, i can pretty much figure it out and get something close to what i want.. But when i look at my multi effects, you need to be a pilot to figure it out, knobs and buttons and switches and i have no idea what half of them are (settings wise)...

There doesnt seem to be a lot of info amp/effects settings available....

Just a thought

[Tekker]

Originally Posted by Matty22

Perhaps a lesson on tone in itself....
When i look at my amp, i can pretty much figure it out and get something close to what i want.. But when i look at my multi effects, you need to be a pilot to figure it out, knobs and buttons and switches and i have no idea what half of them are (settings wise)...

Mulit-effects can be overwhelming if you look at all the possible combination of effects it can do, but it can be simplified. If you want to treat it like an amp you can turn off all the chorus, reverb, compression, etc. settings and just focus on getting a straight clean or distorted sound. This would involve selecting the amp model you want to use, setting the gain (amount of distortion), then making adjustments to the EQ. Use this section just as you would an amp focusing on miminal settings should make it easier. However, navigating the menus may be a different story though.

My Digitech RP14 pedal is pretty simple compared to the likes of the Boss GT series from what I've heard about them (I haven't used one though). The above is how I go about setting up my pedal. Then I just add one effect at a time and tweak it until I have the sound I want and then move onto the next.

There is a lot of info on various effects online. Learning about each effect in isolation from the others would be very benificial as any multi-effects pedal consists of individual effects can should be understood separately from the other effects. For example, study what the various settings are for reverb and how they affect the sound, such as pre-delay, room size, diffusion, etc. Then take some time to experiment using ONLY the reverb effect. Once you fully understand the settings for the reverb then this one part of your pedal will not be as confusing. Doing this for each effect in your pedal will give you a great understanding of each effect individually and then you can start working on combining effects to create various sounds. If you already have the basics down for each effect you will have a much better idea of how to combine them to get the sound you want.

For the most part it is kind of hard to give specific multi-effects advice as there are SOOOO many different settings and everyone has different tastes in the sounds they like. So the important thing is to just experiment and play around with them. For my plugins lesson I'll just make some samples of effects I like, post my settings, and that will give a good starting point for tweaking the effects further and seeing how changing certain settings alters the sound. A good way to start would be to turn off one effect at a time to hear what that particular effect contributes to the sound (then turn them back on one at a time). The next step would be to then turn off all but one effect and start tweaking the settings of one effect.

Some of my samples will have 5 effects running at once (I won't do more since Kristal has a max of 5 effects that it can use at one time).... So there will be a lot to play with.

-tkr

[randomaire]

Originally Posted by Matty22

Perhaps a lesson on tone in itself....
When i look at my amp, i can pretty much figure it out and get something close to what i want.. But when i look at my multi effects, you need to be a pilot to figure it out, knobs and buttons and switches and i have no idea what half of them are (settings wise)...

There doesnt seem to be a lot of info amp/effects settings available....

Just a thought

Thats what I was meaning thank you matty.

[OldG]

Originally Posted by Tekker

My Digitech RP14 pedal is pretty simple compared to the likes of the Boss GT series from what I've heard about them (I haven't used one though). The above is how I go about setting up my pedal. Then I just add one effect at a time and tweak it until I have the sound I want and then move onto the next.

-tkr

We use a Boss ME-50 here, and use it exactly how you describe... start dry and listen to each effect to see which suits your mood, add reverb to taste then save the patch for future reference.