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Am I hearing things?

Have a quick listen to this clip.

I swear i can hear a bubbly kind of noise in this....

I recorded it straight of my accoustic, thru a Dean Markley sound hole pup... With Adobe Audition... No effects, 100% clean... But i swear i can hear this bubbling noise?

I know the playing is crappy, im not much good at finger picking, guitar strings anyway!

Is it just me that can hear this?

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...?bandID=592366

I couldnt get it to copy the link straight to the track, so click on "Pickin"

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Yeah I hear it too, I am not sure what it it though...

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Sounds like you have some hiss from your equipment. Depending on your settings (and the quality of the equipment) you can get hiss from effects processors/pedals, mixers/preamps, and especially from using the mic preamp on a standard soundcard.

What is your recording setup?

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This was done quickly, just the Pup straight into the soundcard, using the software mic boost.. But when i ran it through the DI as well, (without the mic boost) i got the same problem....

To clarify, i havent had the problem with any recording Ive done with the electric or bass, with or without the multi fx... Thats kinda why its got be baffled... Im using CEP 2.1 (adobe audition) as the software. The soundcard is a standard realtek onboard AC97 i think.....


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This was done quickly, just the Pup straight into the soundcard, using the software mic boost.. But when i ran it through the DI as well, (without the mic boost) i got the same problem....
Did you use the mic input with the DI (just without the mic boost) or did you use the line input?

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I used the Line In... Sorry, shoulda been more clear there


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Also, here's a quick stab at some noise reduction (done during the commercials for Myth Busters.... ) I also used some high EQ to put back some of the high end that the noise reduction removed.

This switches back and forth between the original version with the noise and the noise reduction for easy comparison.
http://www.artistcollaboration.com/u...ng+pickin2.mp3

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I used the Line In... Sorry, shoulda been more clear there
Have you tried different cables and maybe even a different guitar?

It sounds similiar to the noise I get from my Behringer mixer (which is why I never use it for recording.) If you were using a mixer I was going to suggest turing the gain down (as that can decrease the amount of hiss) but that's obviously not going to work here..... Hmmm.... Interesting....

It's not the 60Hz buzz that caused by a grounding problem, so it's hard to say what could be causing it.... The weird thing is you've never had this noise before.

Voxengo has a plugin for noise reduction, but it's $100. I tried looking for a freebie and haven't found one yet.

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Voxengo has a plugin for noise reduction, but it's $100. I tried looking for a freebie and haven't found one yet.
....Wait a minute.... CEP has noise reduction built into it.

So never mind on the plugin, you should be able to use the noise reduction in CEP to remove the unwanted noise. I found a CEP 2.1 demo, so if you need any help removing the noise let me know and I'll fire it up.

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Ive only got the one accoustic to try the Pup with....

The pup end of the lead is hard wired, so i cant easily change leads. But i dont get the same noise if i just run though my Amp...

The behringer mixer i have blew up and wasnt much chop to begin with so its been retired to a doorstop...

A couple of mates i had listen to it, couldnt hear it, but i guessed they didnt really know what they were listenning too...

Im suspecting the soundcard, being an onboard job... why it only effects the accoustic not the other guitars i dont know...

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why it only effects the accoustic not the other guitars i dont know...
OH! It's only that particular guitar? I was thinking you had previously recorded with that guitar and didn't have any problems until now.... But re-reading your other post I see that you did mention you didn't get this problem with electric guitar and bass and never mentioned that acoustic.

Ok, so you don't have any problems with electric instruments, it's only the acoustic that makes the hiss.... Well, that rules out everything but the pickup in your guitar, so that is most likely the source of the extra noise. I have never used an acoustic with an "add-on" pickup (I always use mics to record acoustic guitars), so maybe that brand of pickup just happens to be noisey or maybe you got a dud.

I would try to find out from others who have that type of pickup if they have also problems with noise. If so, then you will probably have to remove the noise using CEP. But if no one else has any problems with it, then I'd take it back (if you just got it) or just take it in and see what the guitar techs think about it.

It's not a lot of hiss and it can be removed with a little effort, but it's always better to try to fix the problem at the source if possibile.

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Well, that rules out everything but the pickup in your guitar, so that is most likely the source of the extra noise.
Except that its perfect running thru my electric amp... Sounds sweet...

I'll try recording it on a different computer over the weekend... Go through the process of elimination...

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Except that its perfect running thru my electric amp... Sounds sweet...
So then it's just the combo of running the pickup into the DI box and into your soundcard? Can you record from your amp, does it have a direct output that you can plug into the computer? If not, then try bypassing the DI box and go straight into the line input (not the mic input) from your pickup.

Also, what kind of a DI box do you have?

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It still made the noise regardless of using the DI or not.... at first i ran it direct, then tried it with the DI, to see if it improved...
The amps got a headphone out, and the FX send/return, so i could probably use the FX send might give that a shot tomorrow.

It could be the computer playing funny buggers with me too.... actually, now that i think about it .... i dont recall it making the noises on the other jam thing i recorded, that was strummed rather than picked.... ill have a gander at that too, do a bit more checking up.... i forgot i recorded that iwth the accoustic

Eh i dunno, ill figure it out... or ill throw the comptuer against the wall and get a new one (good excuse lol)


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at least im not going ga ga, and there is actually a noise there


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