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May 24th, 2008
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How it sounds!?
Many people here is wondering how their guitar can sound good even if they recorded in Softwares...with or without external procesors
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Ok... I'll start this thread... IF somthing like this is allready exist please move this thread and glue with this existing or simply delete it...
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Let's go...
First you connect guitar with computer... in way you use to do...
then record something....
Next, you can use some of softwares to add distortion or just emphasize your recording...
Example 1
in this example I'm recorded dry signal from my guitar!!!
set up wil be like this:
Guitar> computer inn just hit record and play
Example 2
Here you hear guitar from previous example but signal is processed with plugins like on picture
Example 3
This is Sound played through ZOOM3030... an old processor which is made around '95. His distortions are poor when it is connected just in Computer... like you can hear. I love to call it "Bees in the jar"
set-up used for this is
Guitar>ZOOM3030> computer inn... hit the record button and play guitar... yeah!!!
But here you can also improve your sound with free plugins like: boogex, Amp simulator from Reaper, Guitar suite from simulanalog or any amp simulator from market!!! Amplitube, Guitar rig, GTR, Revalver... or... many, many other
Hear this Example 4. For this sound I use plugins like on this picture
JUST beware!!! don't add distortion if signal is already distorded or overdriven because it will destroy your sound.
When sound is already distorded with procesor you'll need JUST a cabinet impulse!!!
Those impulses are incorporated in boogex, Amp sim, Simulanalog (the best) guitar suite JCM800 amp A... etc etc...
Any, just any procesor needs to be runned through cab simulator...
When do, you'll have better sound and you can get those raw guitar hi-gain tone...
Hope it will help someone!!!
We can't lost, 'cause we don't know where we're oing
but anyway, we are all going in the same irection.
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pretty cool. I wonder what my acoustic would sound like with those plugins - I'll have to try it 
thanks for this.
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Nice info. Thanks for posting.
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Doug, don't expect many improvements on acoustic... But try...
For acoustic guitar and all acoustic instruments only thing you really need is good condenser mic and even better preamp... vith valve. This is for true natural ton.
This "tutorial" is mainly for guitars and basses where someone want to record these instrments and he doesen't have a good amp, sound booth (deaf room..???), nice equipement but stell need to record guitar to sound verry good!
But I'm always for experimenting...
We can't lost, 'cause we don't know where we're oing
but anyway, we are all going in the same irection.
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Nice post - just the kind of advice I needed when I started out.  Would you be good enough to link or pm me that tbt preamp plug you are using in example 2. please 
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Great job dejankuki! 
I have some clips in my lesson forum, but I didn't do any heavy distortion. So this is on the other end of the sound spectrum.
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Doug, don't expect many improvements on acoustic... But try...
For acoustic guitar and all acoustic instruments only thing you really need is good condenser mic and even better preamp... vith valve. This is for true natural ton.
This "tutorial" is mainly for guitars and basses where someone want to record these instrments and he doesen't have a good amp, sound booth (deaf room..???), nice equipement but stell need to record guitar to sound verry good!
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Yeah, distortion probably wouldn't sound all that good with acoustic... But any other effects would work great with acoustic, such as chorus, delay, reverb, flange, compression, etc.
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Would you be good enough to link or pm me that tbt preamp plug you are using in example 2. please |
I just found it on the KVR forum.
KVR: PreAMP TGR-18 v1.2 Updated!
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Only old n'dead links there Tek, from what I can see,unfortunately
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This is a plain tube preamp simulation... I use it here because it's a free! But many DAW's have bundled their own... like cubase.. it have "daTube" which have verry same effect...
Tekker, I just see your lessons... sorry I haven't see it before... Just great lesion...
And yes...you are right about hi-gain.. no one would like to have distortions on acoustic.... modulation and time-based FX, shure... some of them are must-have...
I like this impulses because they give to electric guitar much natural, power driven ... wood feeling ... sound... like you play infront of real cabinets... well.... "like"...
We can't lost, 'cause we don't know where we're oing
but anyway, we are all going in the same irection.
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Great examples and information Dejankuki, thanks.
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Originally Posted by dejankuki
Many people here is wondering how their guitar can sound good even if they recorded in Softwares...with or without external procesors
Let's go...
First you connect guitar with computer... in way you use to do...
then record something....
Next, you can use some of softwares to add distortion or just emphasize your recording...
Example 1
in this example I'm recorded dry signal from my guitar!!!
set up wil be like this:
Guitar> computer inn just hit record and play
Example 2
Here you hear guitar from previous example but signal is processed with plugins like on picture
Example 3
This is Sound played through ZOOM3030... an old processor which is made around '95. His distortions are poor when it is connected just in Computer... like you can hear. I love to call it "Bees in the jar"
set-up used for this is
Guitar>ZOOM3030> computer inn... hit the record button and play guitar... yeah!!!
But here you can also improve your sound with free plugins like: boogex, Amp simulator from Reaper, Guitar suite from simulanalog or any amp simulator from market!!! Amplitube, Guitar rig, GTR, Revalver... or... many, many otherHear this Example 4. For this sound I use plugins like on this picture
JUST beware!!! don't add distortion if signal is already distorded or overdriven because it will destroy your sound.
When sound is already distorded with procesor you'll need JUST a cabinet impulse!!!
Those impulses are incorporated in boogex, Amp sim, Simulanalog (the best) guitar suite JCM800 amp A... etc etc...
Any, just any procesor needs to be runned through cab simulator...
When do, you'll have better sound and you can get those raw guitar hi-gain tone...
Hope it will help someone!!! |
How do get those free plugin and how do you use them in you software. I have Sony Acid music studio software ($70); will it work?
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My favourite hi-gain plugin can be downloaded for free here.
Acid music studio will run these VST's if you put the .dll file in the shared plugins folder in the Sony folder ( should be in C:/ Program files by default).
There are lots of free guitar amp sims (simulators) available ... google free amp sim vst to see what I mean
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Well, true, there is many free and I mean totaly free of charge amp and cab simulators..
I mention boogex.. this plugin is made by voxengo.. Voxengo
next simulanalog guitar suite SimulAnalog Guitar Suite
Amp simulator is a plug in that comes with Reaper.. REAPER | About
Studio Devil Virtual Guitar Amp Plugin Downloads (VST, AU, RTAS) Here you'll find FREE studio Devil... one of veeeerry fine amp simulators..
Ofcourse, fretted synth free amp Fretted Synth
On this site you may look same simunalog guitar suite JCM800 but here you have skin for them VST Tribute
There is another free of charge amp simulator... Tubeamp download
Aaaaand aradaz amp simulatorS... ARADAZ VST FREE
All of these amp&cab simulators are VST and therefore all will be working in ANY sequencer which support VST plugins...
How to ude them.. like any regular plug in.
Record something.. then open VST effect window, put some effects in it.. aaaaaand 'njoy
(I'm not much familiar with ACID, but I think you can manage and understand how it's going..)
We can't lost, 'cause we don't know where we're oing
but anyway, we are all going in the same irection.
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dejan,
Lots of great info. Nice playing by the way.
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Thanks, I try to do my best
We can't lost, 'cause we don't know where we're oing
but anyway, we are all going in the same irection.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dejankuki
Well, true, there is many free and I mean totaly free of charge amp and cab simulators..
I mention boogex.. this plugin is made by voxengo.. Voxengo
next simulanalog guitar suite SimulAnalog Guitar Suite
Amp simulator is a plug in that comes with Reaper.. REAPER | About
Studio Devil Virtual Guitar Amp Plugin Downloads (VST, AU, RTAS) Here you'll find FREE studio Devil... one of veeeerry fine amp simulators..
Ofcourse, fretted synth free amp Fretted Synth
On this site you may look same simunalog guitar suite JCM800 but here you have skin for them VST Tribute
There is another free of charge amp simulator... Tubeamp download
Aaaaand aradaz amp simulatorS... ARADAZ VST FREE
All of these amp&cab simulators are VST and therefore all will be working in ANY sequencer which support VST plugins...
How to ude them.. like any regular plug in.
Record something.. then open VST effect window, put some effects in it.. aaaaaand 'njoy
(I'm not much familiar with ACID, but I think you can manage and understand how it's going..) |
Im going to sound like a newbie but iam  . How do you get these downloads into the right folder. I clicked on these items and it was downloaded as a winraw compressed files. I don't know what to do with these files. 
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