How it sound!?

dejankuki · #1 May 24th, 2008

Many people here is wondering how their guitar can sound good even if they recorded in Softwares...with or without external procesors

Quote:

Ok... I'll start this thread... IF somthing like this is allready exist please move this thread and glue with this existing or simply delete it...

Let's go...

First you connect guitar with computer... in way you use to do...

then record something....

Next, you can use some of softwares to add distortion or just emphasize your recording...

Example 1
in this example I'm recorded dry signal from my guitar!!!
set up wil be like this:
Guitar> computer inn just hit record and play

Example 2
Here you hear guitar from previous example but signal is processed with plugins like on picture

Example 3
This is Sound played through ZOOM3030... an old processor which is made around '95. His distortions are poor when it is connected just in Computer... like you can hear. I love to call it "Bees in the jar"
set-up used for this is
Guitar>ZOOM3030> computer inn... hit the record button and play guitar... yeah!!!

But here you can also improve your sound with free plugins like: boogex, Amp simulator from Reaper, Guitar suite from simulanalog or any amp simulator from market!!! Amplitube, Guitar rig, GTR, Revalver... or... many, many other
Hear this Example 4. For this sound I use plugins like on this picture

JUST beware!!! don't add distortion if signal is already distorded or overdriven because it will destroy your sound.

When sound is already distorded with procesor you'll need JUST a cabinet impulse!!!
Those impulses are incorporated in boogex, Amp sim, Simulanalog (the best) guitar suite JCM800 amp A... etc etc...

Any, just any procesor needs to be runned through cab simulator...
When do, you'll have better sound and you can get those raw guitar hi-gain tone...

Hope it will help someone!!!

Doug · #2 May 24th, 2008

pretty cool. I wonder what my acoustic would sound like with those plugins - I'll have to try it

thanks for this.

eddiez152 · #3 May 24th, 2008

Nice info. Thanks for posting.

dejankuki · #4 May 25th, 2008

Doug, don't expect many improvements on acoustic... But try...

For acoustic guitar and all acoustic instruments only thing you really need is good condenser mic and even better preamp... vith valve. This is for true natural ton.
This "tutorial" is mainly for guitars and basses where someone want to record these instrments and he doesen't have a good amp, sound booth (deaf room..???), nice equipement but stell need to record guitar to sound verry good!

But I'm always for experimenting...

OldG · #5 May 25th, 2008

Nice post - just the kind of advice I needed when I started out.

Would you be good enough to link or pm me that tbt preamp plug you are using in example 2. please

Tekker · #6 May 25th, 2008

Great job dejankuki!

I have some clips in my lesson forum, but I didn't do any heavy distortion. So this is on the other end of the sound spectrum.

Guitar Multi-Effects Processors and VST Plugins

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Originally Posted by dejankuki

Doug, don't expect many improvements on acoustic... But try...

For acoustic guitar and all acoustic instruments only thing you really need is good condenser mic and even better preamp... vith valve. This is for true natural ton.
This "tutorial" is mainly for guitars and basses where someone want to record these instrments and he doesen't have a good amp, sound booth (deaf room..???), nice equipement but stell need to record guitar to sound verry good!

Yeah, distortion probably wouldn't sound all that good with acoustic... But any other effects would work great with acoustic, such as chorus, delay, reverb, flange, compression, etc.

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Originally Posted by OldG

Would you be good enough to link or pm me that tbt preamp plug you are using in example 2. please

I just found it on the KVR forum.
KVR: PreAMP TGR-18 v1.2 Updated!

-tkr

OldG · #7 May 25th, 2008

Only old n'dead links there Tek, from what I can see,unfortunately

dejankuki · #8 May 25th, 2008

www.tinbrooketales.com

This is a plain tube preamp simulation... I use it here because it's a free! But many DAW's have bundled their own... like cubase.. it have "daTube" which have verry same effect...

Tekker, I just see your lessons... sorry I haven't see it before... Just great lesion...

And yes...you are right about hi-gain.. no one would like to have distortions on acoustic.... modulation and time-based FX, shure... some of them are must-have...

I like this impulses because they give to electric guitar much natural, power driven ... wood feeling ... sound... like you play infront of real cabinets... well.... "like"...

knight46 · #9 May 27th, 2008

Great examples and information Dejankuki, thanks.

lle7 · #10 4 Weeks Ago

Quote:

Originally Posted by dejankuki

Many people here is wondering how their guitar can sound good even if they recorded in Softwares...with or without external procesors

Let's go...

First you connect guitar with computer... in way you use to do...

then record something....

Next, you can use some of softwares to add distortion or just emphasize your recording...

Example 1
in this example I'm recorded dry signal from my guitar!!!
set up wil be like this:
Guitar> computer inn just hit record and play

Example 2
Here you hear guitar from previous example but signal is processed with plugins like on picture

Example 3
This is Sound played through ZOOM3030... an old processor which is made around '95. His distortions are poor when it is connected just in Computer... like you can hear. I love to call it "Bees in the jar"
set-up used for this is
Guitar>ZOOM3030> computer inn... hit the record button and play guitar... yeah!!!

But here you can also improve your sound with free plugins like: boogex, Amp simulator from Reaper, Guitar suite from simulanalog or any amp simulator from market!!! Amplitube, Guitar rig, GTR, Revalver... or... many, many otherHear this Example 4. For this sound I use plugins like on this picture

JUST beware!!! don't add distortion if signal is already distorded or overdriven because it will destroy your sound.

When sound is already distorded with procesor you'll need JUST a cabinet impulse!!!
Those impulses are incorporated in boogex, Amp sim, Simulanalog (the best) guitar suite JCM800 amp A... etc etc...

Any, just any procesor needs to be runned through cab simulator...
When do, you'll have better sound and you can get those raw guitar hi-gain tone...

Hope it will help someone!!!

How do get those free plugin and how do you use them in you software. I have Sony Acid music studio software ($70); will it work?

OldG · #11 4 Weeks Ago

My favourite hi-gain plugin can be downloaded for free here.

Acid music studio will run these VST's if you put the .dll file in the shared plugins folder in the Sony folder ( should be in C:/ Program files by default).

There are lots of free guitar amp sims (simulators) available ... google free amp sim vst to see what I mean

dejankuki · #12 4 Weeks Ago

Well, true, there is many free and I mean totaly free of charge amp and cab simulators..

I mention boogex.. this plugin is made by voxengo.. Voxengo

next simulanalog guitar suite SimulAnalog Guitar Suite

Amp simulator is a plug in that comes with Reaper.. REAPER | About

Studio Devil Virtual Guitar Amp Plugin Downloads (VST, AU, RTAS) Here you'll find FREE studio Devil... one of veeeerry fine amp simulators..

Ofcourse, fretted synth free amp Fretted Synth

On this site you may look same simunalog guitar suite JCM800 but here you have skin for them VST Tribute

There is another free of charge amp simulator... Tubeamp download

Aaaaand aradaz amp simulatorS... ARADAZ VST FREE

All of these amp&cab simulators are VST and therefore all will be working in ANY sequencer which support VST plugins...

How to ude them.. like any regular plug in.

Record something.. then open VST effect window, put some effects in it.. aaaaaand 'njoy

(I'm not much familiar with ACID, but I think you can manage and understand how it's going..)

eddiez152 · #13 4 Weeks Ago

dejan,

Lots of great info. Nice playing by the way.

dejankuki · #14 4 Weeks Ago

Thanks, I try to do my best

lle7 · #15 4 Weeks Ago

Quote:

Originally Posted by dejankuki

Well, true, there is many free and I mean totaly free of charge amp and cab simulators..

I mention boogex.. this plugin is made by voxengo.. Voxengo

next simulanalog guitar suite SimulAnalog Guitar Suite

Amp simulator is a plug in that comes with Reaper.. REAPER | About

Studio Devil Virtual Guitar Amp Plugin Downloads (VST, AU, RTAS) Here you'll find FREE studio Devil... one of veeeerry fine amp simulators..

Ofcourse, fretted synth free amp Fretted Synth

On this site you may look same simunalog guitar suite JCM800 but here you have skin for them VST Tribute

There is another free of charge amp simulator... Tubeamp download

Aaaaand aradaz amp simulatorS... ARADAZ VST FREE

All of these amp&cab simulators are VST and therefore all will be working in ANY sequencer which support VST plugins...

How to ude them.. like any regular plug in.

Record something.. then open VST effect window, put some effects in it.. aaaaaand 'njoy

(I'm not much familiar with ACID, but I think you can manage and understand how it's going..)

Im going to sound like a newbie but iam

. How do you get these downloads into the right folder. I clicked on these items and it was downloaded as a winraw compressed files. I don't know what to do with these files.