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Necks how they are fixed??

Can some one tell me what the difference between a set neck or a bolt on (not the bolts LOL) does it make a difference to the sound quality of the guitar been looking at some Epiphones some say they have bolt on necks and some which seem to be a few more £££ have set neck are they glued, are they better than a bolt on or not ??

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That is a debate that goes on continually among musicians. Set necks are glued and therefore are said to be more stable. With bolt on necks, it depends on the guitar. Gibson SGs were notorious at one time for having neck stability problems. Other players swear by the neck stability of some bolt on necked guitars.

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I much prefer my Strat's bolt-on ... it never goes out of tune. I had a Gibson 335 once with a glued neck. It never stayed in tune. Just moving from a standing position to a sitting position threw it out.

The other nice thing about bolt-on is that if you're flying anywhere, you can just unbolt the neck and pack the two parts in a suitcase sandwiched between clothes. That's what I did when we went to Canada and back. Much less worry and it just went back on in exactly the same position, action etc.


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I can only speak of my own experience with bolt on necks - never had any issues with stability or problems with tuning with mine. I imagine that it is more difficult to judge the quality of a neck join with a set neck - a bit of glue and wood filler will hide a mulitude of sins if the joint is at all sloppy.

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  Necks...

Everything said so far is true.

When I was learning to make instruments, I looked at the various ways necks are attached. For solid body electrics, a bolt on neck is fine, though not very esthetically pleasing to my way of thinking.

In an acoustic or acoustic electric, a bolt on neck is still an option - though it isn't visible in that case. Glued necks are done in several ways, and one is to butt the neck up to the body of the guitar and attach it with glue and three or four bolts from the inside of the body. This is a very solid attachment method.

They can also be cut with a key and slot, so the end of the neck - shaped like a dovetail - slides into a V shaped slot in the neck block, and is of course glued. This is also solid. The advantage to these kinds of neck attachment is that the neck can actually be removed in the future if necessary. I've done it, and it's not too difficult to remove, repair, and replace the neck.

Sometimes the two methods (bolt and dove-tail) are combined, but it's rare.

These are the methods most often used in steel string acoustic guitars. The bolt on is more popular with factory made guitars because it lends itself to mass production. The dovetail design is usually the preferred method in hand made guitars.

The method I prefer, and use myself, is to make the neck with an integral block that has slots in the sides. When assembling the instrument the sides go into the slots, the top of the block is glued to the soundboard, and the bottom of the block is glued to the back. You can't take this apart without disassembling (read destroying) the entire instrument. The reasons I prefer this method:
- The instrument is rock solid. The neck will never move or come loose.
- The neck is perfectly aligned with the body in all three axis.
- It's relatively easy to get it right.

This is the method most often used in hand made classical guitars.

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Thanks all for your thoughts so i'm getting the notion that it does'nt effect the sound of the guitar at all, so thats eased my thinking a bit won't become obsessed with one or the other looking at 2 epiphone LP one is Epiphone LES PAUL LP100 (bolt on) the other is Epiphone LES PAUL STUDIO (set neck) both similar price. around £200 probably get cheaper if i search more no funds till xmas thou unless me numbers come up then no prob i''l spen a grand or more lol..

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