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No Amp, No Problem! (if you have a Mac)

If you have a Mac made within the past few years you can use it as an amp!

Discovered this neat little trick while messing about last night. I'm sure a lot of you already know this, but please bear with me while I document this for those who don't. Also, those who are proficient Mac users please bear with me while I write out instructions that are as detailed as possible for those who are not as proficient with their Macs as you are. Click the links labeled as (screenshot) in the instructions for screenshots of what I was talking about immediately before the link, other links lead to sites or files related to the phrase turned into a link.


What you need:

An electric guitar
An electrric guitar cord
A 1/4" to 1/8" audio jack adapter (like this one)
An Apple Macintosh Computer with an audio line-in jack and either GarageBand plus iTunes software installed, and/or the free Audacity audio editing software installed.

Most Macs made within the past few years have built-in audio line-in jacks. If you're unsure whether you have an audio line-in or not, look around on the back of the computer if it's a desktop or the sides if it's a laptop. Look for a jack that looks like a headphone or speaker jack but instead has an icon next to it that looks something like this. If you don't have an audio line-in, well..... you may as well stop reading right now.

In addition to the line-in you will need either GarageBand or Audacity (or another audio recording app) to play your guitar through your Mac. If you use GarageBand you will also need iTunes if you want to record and export your playing as an mp3. If you're using Audacity alone you will not need iTunes to save your performance as an mp3, but GarageBand + iTunes gives you MUCH more options than Audacity when it comes to applying effects to your playing. Most Macs made within the past few years have GarageBand and iTunes pre-installed. If you don't have iTunes and/or GarageBand, iTunes is a free download here, and GarageBand may be purchased as part of Apple's iLife software suite. Again, if you don't have and can't afford GarageBand then Audacity is free, but I don't recommend using Audacity for live play-through due to it's complete lack of ability to apply effects in real time. However, even if you do have GarageBand already you might want to download Audacity also and use it for post-editing your music (unless you already have some other audio editing software that you prefer to use).


Setup Step 1:
Make sure your computer is using the audio line-in as it's default audio input rather than it's built-in microphone (if it has one). Open System Preferences (click the Apple icon in the upper left-hand corner of the screen and choose "System Preferences" from the menu). Select the "Sound" preference pane (screenshot), then click the "Input" tab. In most cases there should only be one option "line-in" (if it has a line-in jack). Laptops with built-in microphones will have both a "line-in" option (again, assuming it has the jack) and an "Internal microphone" option. If you have a desktop Mac and have installed a third party sound card you may have multiple options for that as well as the one mentioned above. Chose the appropriate input device. For most of us this will simply be "line in" and will not be "Internal microphone" for anyone. You'll probably need to turn the input volume up all the way (screenshot).


Setup Step 2:
Plug your guitar cord into your guitar. If you have a hardware effects box you want to use, plug the other end into it's input then get another cable and use the audio adapter to plug the output of the effects box into your Mac. Otherwise just attach the audio plug adapter to the other end of your cord and plug the whole thing into you Mac's audio line-in port. Make sure your system volume is turned up, not muted, and that if you're using external speakers they are turned on and have the volume turned up. For Desktops with external speakers be careful not to turn them up too high to begin with. For laptops using their built-in speakers you might not even hear your playing with the volume turned all the way up! Laptop speakers suck. Get external speakers or headphones.


Play-through Option 1: Audacity (not recommended)
Start Audacity. Open Audacity's Preferences from the Audacity Menu (screenshot). Select the Audio I/O tab, set "Built-In Audio" as the device for both playback and recording (unless of course, as mentioned before, you have a third-party soundcard installed that you prefer to use), and select both the hardware and software playthrough options. It is also probably was to select the option preventing AUdcity from altering your audio device settings (screenshot). Now click "ok" and press the "record" button in Audacity. Start playing. If you've done everything right you should now hear your playing coming through you Mac's speakers. You may continue to play as long as you like (within reason) on most new systems, but if your computer is old and/or low on RAM you Audacity might crash when you've played so long that you run out of memory. This should take quite a while, though, so play on. Unfortunately, with Audacity you cannot apply any effects at all to your playing in real time unless you have hardware effects boxes. (Click here to subject your ears to my clumsy fingers playing some chords through Audacity). You can, of course, apply whatever effects you have VST or Nyquist plugins for after you've finished recording. (Click here to listen to the same track with a little overdrive applied via a VST plugin). When you're done playing, just quit Audacity if you don't want to save what you've played or click File > Export as MP3 if you do (you may also save as .WAV or Ogg Vorbis). If you're using Audacity for playthrough, the rest of this tutorial does not apply to you. Because it can only play through while recording (and thus using up RAM) and cannot apply software effects in real time, this option is really ONLY for those who have a Mac but not an amp as a temporary solution until they can either get an amp or get GarageBand.


Play-through Option 2: GarageBand (recommended)
Start up GarageBand. If you had messed about with GarageBand without having any idea what you were doing (like I had done) you probably wound up with a saved project file already, which GarageBand will automatically open for you; in which case skip to step 4 (if you had used GarageBand and did know what you were doing I'm assuming you don't need this tutorial). Otherwise, if you had not saved a project in GarageBand recently it will present you with a small box asking you whether you want to locate and open an existing project or start a new one (screenshot). You'll want to select "Create a New Project". A save dialog window will appear asking you where and as what name to save your new project. This window will also ask you what tempo, time, and key to save your project as (screenshot). What tempo, time, and key to set will not matter very much if all you'll be doing is playing your guitar but they will matter if you decide to add any of the literally thousands of available music loops and tracks to your project. Don't worry, though, these settings can be changed later. For right now I'd recommend 4/4 time and either the key of C or the key of E, as these are the settings that most of the free tracks and loops you can find on the web are designed for.

Option 2, Step 2:
Delete all tracks in your project. (If you had just created the project in step 3 you probably have only one track, a simulated piano). Select each track by clicking it, then delete it by selecting "Track" in the menu and choosing "Delete Track" (screenshot).

Option 2, Step 3:
Create a new track by clicking the "Track" menu and selecting, of course, "New Track" (screenshot). A dialog window will pop up with a tab for real instruments plugged into your Mac and a tab for instruments simulated entirely with software. Of course you'll choose the "Real Instrument" tab, then choose "Guitars". To the right of "Guitars" is a range of several effects presets. These are basic effects added to the input signal to simulate clean acoustic or rock-n-roll electric and many things in-between. At the bottom of the window are options for stereo or mono (the signal from your guitar is mono, but it doesn't hurt anything to leave the selection here as stereo), an option for the input volume (you'll probably want to leave this quite high, especially if you have laptop speakers), and whether or not to actively monitor the channel. You must select the "Monitor ON" option, otherwise you won't hear anything when you play (screenshot). Click "Create". Now play your guitar. If all went well, you will hear it coming out of your Mac's speakers or headphones.


Option 2, Step 4:
Now that you've got the guitar playing through your Mac, you can either fine-tune the sound effects or just skip the rest of this tutorial and play on. If you want to fine-tune the sound, you can access the effect properties at any time by clicking the "Track" menu and choosing "Show Track Info" (screenshot). You can then change the effect however you like but you are not limited to the basic presets!!! Clicking the disclosure triangle labeled "Details..." at the bottom of the window (screenshot) opens up a nearly infinite range of possibilities (screenshot). Here you get full control over various features such as noise get, equalizer, echo, and reverb; but there are also two even more versatile effects channels. The ones labeled "Flanger" and "Track Echo" on the previous screenshot are both pop-up menus that allow an even wider array of effects to be added (screenshot). In addition to simulations of popular effects boxes you can also add in Apple Audio Unit effects (these are plugins for audio editing applications. Similar to VST plugins but Audio Units are a new format developed by Apple. If you're familiar with using VST plugins with audio editing software such as pro applications Logic and Peak, or free apps like Audacity, then you're familiar with the kinds of things Audio Units do.) Many ofthe effects can be even further refined by choosing one of the sub-presets that become available in the pop-up menu to the right of these two and/or manually editing the effect by clicking the "edit" button (the one that looks like a small pencil. For example, suppose I change what had been "Track Echo" in the previous screenshot to "Amp Simulation. I can then either choose a preset or manual setup and edit the settings however I like (screenshot). Likewise changing one of them to "Distortion" allows access to distortion settings through the little button that looks like a pencil (screenshot). These multiple levels of refinement, first through basic guitar presets, then through effect presets, then through manual adjustment of each effect, are available on most possible effects. The possibilities appear to be nearly limitless!! For those of you who are used to using hardware effects boxes, most of the settings and fine adjustments available will probably seem familiar. Since I am not accustomed to setting up effects I'm not at all qualified to offer any tips in this area. If you (like me) don't know what you're doing you will need (like me) to simply experiment on your own. Click [url=http://homepage.mac.com/joelhacker/images/forumpics/JH_GarageBand_Test_1.mp3]here[/url to punish your ears with me playing a short intro piece with an echo-heavy acoustic sound and here to further offend your delicate sensibilities with me playing (badly) a little 1970's Judas Priest.


Option 2 errata:
If you wish to record what you play, simply click the "Record" button at the bottom of the GarageBand window. Otherwise you may simply play straight through the computer without recording. Unlike with Audacity, doing this uses little to no RAM. If you wish to save your recording, just click "File > Export to iTunes". Then open iTunes and drag your song file out to your desktop. (I'm told that newer versions of GarageBand can export your recording directly to mp3, aiff, or wav without going through iTunes, but since I only have GarageBand version 2 released a few years ago I cannot personally verify this). GarageBand also has a built in guitar tuner!! Just choose "Show Instrument Tuner" from the "Control" menu and it appears in place of the recording time display (screenshot).

Option 2 Summing Up:
Using GarageBand as part of a stage perfomance would be silly because while you can change presets quickly you can't change them fast enough for mid-performance like you can with a pedal you just step on and probably isn't quite as good as the higher-end hardware effects. Still, for home practice it's much cheaper than investing in high-end hardware effects (especially if you already had the Mac anyway); allowing you to experiment with (probably) nearly every conceivable sound without shelling out thousands of bucks for numerous different boxes, pedals, and pre-amps, and takes up much less physical space than such a collection of hardware would.


[EDIT]
One post-script: My digging around on the web indicates that, regardless of the software you use, a CRT monitor (Mac or PC) will often badly interfere with single-coil pickups that are not properly shielded (and apparently most are not properly shielded). So if you have a CRT monitor you may want to pick up an inexpensive LCD or just sit a good long way away from the computer. Of course having someone who knows what they're doing shield your pickups and controls is a good idea, too.


Well, that's it. I hope this was informative and helpful to at least a few.


Sincerely,
Sentry: night-watchman in the land of nerd guitar


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By the way, Windows and Linux users who have audio line-in jacks can use Audacity exactly as described above for Mac, but with exactly the same drawbacks and limitations. Anyone know of play-through software for Windows and/or Linux that allows real-time effects and playing without recording so as to not risk running out of RAM?

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Cool tips

I use the built in amps a lot, I even use my Mac as a backup amp for for my pod when I gig.

This is definitely for some of the new Mac users on here

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Unfortunately the newer Macs, G4's Digital Audio and up have no line in, for those you need to get a USB audio input.

Some effects stomp boxes also have these USB inputs.
I still need to make a few more posts before I can post links> Whose Idea was that?

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Cool tips

I use the built in amps a lot, I even use my Mac as a backup amp for for my pod when I gig.
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Unfortunately the newer Macs, G4's Digital Audio and up have no line in, for those you need to get a USB audio input.
That's true, but the higher-end G4's (Powerbook laptop and PowerMac desktop) made just before the switch to Intel processors had audio line-in. All the new intel-based Macs have audio line-in including the "lower-end" models (iMac, Mac Mini, and Macbook).

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I still need to make a few more posts before I can post links> Whose Idea was that?
Yes, rather annoying. It's also annoying that we can't edit posts we made more than a few minutes ago. I just noticed numerous typos in my initial post in this thread that I'd like to fix but now cannot.

*shrug*

Oh well. I'm sure the mods instituted these restrictions for reasons that are important to them. I'm just glad we have this forum and all this site's great tutorials. The community here (so far) seems friendlier than many out there. I'm often truly shocked at how rude some people in other communities can be to others for the simple "crime" of not knowing as much about a given subject or for misunderstanding a difficult concept. Don't know what other guitar communities are like, but many computing-related communities can be unbelievably hostile. Thus far I have seen no indication that this is the case here.


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By the way, I know this isn't really guitar related but I usually like to double-check info before I post it and I found a video on Apple's site while verifying that all the Intel-based Macs do indeed come with audio line-in ports (they do). It's the "PC" character singing a sad country-blues song while someone plays guitar off-camera. Thought it was hilarious and thought some others might like it as well. Enjoy the Vista Blues.

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I can't speak for all Macs, but my Macbook (Intel processor) has a line-in jack. I'm using a firewire A/D interface instead, but the line-in is definitely there, right next to the headphone jack on the left side of the computer.


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I don't own an amp (at least, not a good one anyways), so that is how I play my electric. I think the VST effects that I use sound better than the effects in my Digitech RP14, so I don't use it anymore unless I'm playing away from my computer (which doesn't happen too often ).

It's also nice doing it that way because you can download backing tracks, load them into your recording program, and jam away with both your guitar and backing track coming through the same speakers without needing a hardware mixer.


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Anyone know of play-through software for Windows and/or Linux that allows real-time effects and playing without recording so as to not risk running out of RAM?
If you want to go free there is Kristal Audio, but I very highly recommend Reaper ($40).

I have made tutorials for both programs so you can set them up using VST monitoring:

Reaper Tutorial
Kristal Audio Tutorial


One of the (many) downsides in Kristal Audio is that you cannot record while monitoring VST plugins. You'd have to record your guitar dry and then add plugins afterwards. So you wouldn't be able to hear what your effects will sounded like while recording. But in Reaper, you have the option to do both simultaneously.

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I can't speak for all Macs, but my Macbook (Intel processor) has a line-in jack. I'm using a firewire A/D interface instead, but the line-in is definitely there, right next to the headphone jack on the left side of the computer.
Yup. My gf recently bought herself a new Macbook. She was quite pleased to discover the line-in because her old iBook didn't have one and she had wanted to convert some old audio cassettes of her band to digital and clean up the sound with Soundsoap. I wound up having to do it for her with my Powerbook G4.


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It's also nice doing it that way because you can download backing tracks, load them into your recording program, and jam away with both your guitar and backing track coming through the same speakers without needing a hardware mixer.
Yes, I look forward to experimenting with additional tracks and instruments, even performing "duets" with myself by first recording myself playing, for example, the rhythm guitar and adding it as a track to play along with as I play lead. However, since I'm ok at removing hiss from audio imported from cassettes and lp's but haven't done much of anything else it'll be a while before I get that ambitious.


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If you want to go free there is Kristal Audio, but I very highly recommend Reaper ($40).

I have made tutorials for both programs so you can set them up using VST monitoring:

Reaper Tutorial
Kristal Audio Tutorial
Good to know! Thank you! Although I almost never use my PC for anything, I like knowing about Windows ways of doing the things I do on my Mac. Since the majority of the world uses PCs it's nice to have an answer when a PC user asks me a question.


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One of the (many) downsides in Kristal Audio is that you cannot record while monitoring VST plugins. You'd have to record your guitar dry and then add plugins afterwards. So you wouldn't be able to hear what your effects will sounded like while recording. But in Reaper, you have the option to do both simultaneously.
Hmm... that can be a problem. But is it really necessary to record with the same software that you're using for play-through? Would it be possible to use Kristal for play-through and effects and be recording in real time with a different app? I have a program called "Wire Tap Pro" (no longer available, per se, the company that made it added features, upped the price slightly, and re-named it Wiretap Studio) that can record any audio that is playing through the speakers in real time, regardless of the source. It doesn't extract audio from the source but instead simply makes a recording directly of whatever sound is coming through the speakers. No hiss or background noise like you would get if you attached a mic and placed it near the speakers. Only downside is that if you check your email or something while recording and get a new email, your "new mail notification beep" will also be in the recording.

Anyway, anything like that for Windows or would you just attach a splitter to the speaker jack and route one to the audio line in with a cable with two male ends and record with Audacity?

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That's true, but the higher-end G4's (Powerbook laptop and PowerMac desktop) made just before the switch to Intel processors had audio line-in. All the new intel-based Macs have audio line-in including the "lower-end" models (iMac, Mac Mini, and Macbook).



Yes, rather annoying. It's also annoying that we can't edit posts we made more than a few minutes ago. I just noticed numerous typos in my initial post in this thread that I'd like to fix but now cannot.

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Oh well. I'm sure the mods instituted these restrictions for reasons that are important to them. I'm just glad we have this forum and all this site's great tutorials. The community here (so far) seems friendlier than many out there. I'm often truly shocked at how rude some people in other communities can be to others for the simple "crime" of not knowing as much about a given subject or for misunderstanding a difficult concept. Don't know what other guitar communities are like, but many computing-related communities can be unbelievably hostile. Thus far I have seen no indication that this is the case here.
My G5 DP 2.5 and my G4 DP800 Quicksilver, and my G4 DP533 Digital Audio have no audio in. Seems I crapped out on the models I bought. Good to know Apple brought it back on the newer models tho.

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My G5 DP 2.5 and my G4 DP800 Quicksilver, and my G4 DP533 Digital Audio have no audio in. Seems I crapped out on the models I bought. Good to know Apple brought it back on the newer models tho.
Yup, like I said I double-checked and all new Mac models have audio line-in, from the ultra-affordable Mini to the uber-powerful & costly 8-core Mac Pro. A development that I too am happy to see.

Probably has something to do with Apple's aquiring Emagic and their Logic suite.

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Sentry,
Excellent write up. Thank you for taking the time to put this together.
Although I am using the mac for recording, I have not yet to come close to using all its features. But am having fun at it.


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But is it really necessary to record with the same software that you're using for play-through? Would it be possible to use Kristal for play-through and effects and be recording in real time with a different app? I have a program called "Wire Tap Pro" (no longer available, per se, the company that made it added features, upped the price slightly, and re-named it Wiretap Studio) that can record any audio that is playing through the speakers in real time, regardless of the source. It doesn't extract audio from the source but instead simply makes a recording directly of whatever sound is coming through the speakers. No hiss or background noise like you would get if you attached a mic and placed it near the speakers. Only downside is that if you check your email or something while recording and get a new email, your "new mail notification beep" will also be in the recording.
Yes, you could do that if you are only recording one track, but doing it all in one program is much easier to setup and more convenient. Plus by doing it all in one program you are using less computer resources (RAM) because you only have one application open instead of two. Wiretap probably doesn't take up much resources, but still it would be slightly less to do it in one program.

However, if you want to record more than one track (such as record lead guitar over a backing track), then you'd have to do it all in one program. If you were to use Wiretap then your new recorded track would contain "both" your lead guitar and the backing track since everything going through your sound card gets recoded. Recording it in one program keeps each track separate from the others so you can listen to the backing track and record your guitar onto a new track without recording the backing track along with it.

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Anyway, anything like that for Windows or would you just attach a splitter to the speaker jack and route one to the audio line in with a cable with two male ends and record with Audacity?
Yes, you can actually do this with any recording program. In the Windows sound mixer there is an option called "stereo mix", "record what you hear", or something along these lines depending on your sound card. Then when you record in a recording program everything that is going through your sound card will be recorded. So you could use Audacity or any other program to do the recording.

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To Tekker:

Thanks for the tips! Even though I'm 99.9% Mac-using (my PC is only used as part of a network render farm for Bryce), I think it's vitally important to have good tips for both platforms in any tech-related thread. People should definately look to you for any Windows-based audio engineering tips! Of course, there's very likely other Mac users here who have far more experience in audio, but as you can see I'm not shy about taking the time to capture screenshots and write up basic tutorials. (Just wish this forum would let me go back and fix the typos and add things like below).



To All:

Just a clarification I noticed that I should add: If you use GarageBand and you want to share your recorded playing with others, clicking File > Export to iTunes will not instantly turn it into mp3 format. This saves it in your iTunes library as Apple's AIFF format. This file format is higher quality than mp3 and usually smaller file size too. However, since not all audio players support AIFF then after you copy it out of iTunes onto your desktop you might be better off converting it to mp3 before posting your playing on the web or emailing it to your friends. Every audio player I know of can play mp3s, so this ensures greatest compatability. Converting to mp3 can be done with Audacity and most other audio editing software.

Again, I have been told by others that the newest version of Garageband can export the recording as an mp3 or many other formats directly without the additional step of using iTunes + some other editing/encoding software, but since I only own an older version of Garageband I cannot verify this myself.


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