[toxicity]

Hi everyone,

I have been using Here There Everywhere as my first lesson in finger picking and it started of clumsy but after 4-5 days its getting much better and I'm able to play the first part at a much faster pace now.

I do have one question to ask though. At bar seven after the Em chord the tab says to play the 3rd string at fret 2 but from the video I can notice that Kirk is playing the 4th string. Can someone please clarify that last bar and which fingers are used to fret the notes.

Thanks!

[Kirk Lorange]

Hi toxicity.

I just had a look; it's as the tab shows ... I'm holding down the Em chord with my middle and ring finger, then the pinky comes down to fret the A note, 3rd string, second fret.

Cheers,

[toxicity]

Ok I see it now. It was quick so I couldn't see that you played it with the pinky. But after that you still fret the 4th string. Is there any reason for this?

[Sugarlander]

I found I could play the second bar much easier, smoother, with more legato and ringing notes by changing the location for playing the 3rd through 6th notes (2nd and 3rd beats). Same notes as Kirk, just moving them up the neck.

Namely, after playing the 2nd note, D, with the little finger, leave it on the second string and slide the little finger up to the 10th fret A note, then back to the index finger on the 8th fret on 2nd string for the G note. Then catch the bass note, C, at the 8th fret 6th string with your thumb. Then the C note on the 4th string 10th fret with your ring finger. Then you are back to the tab as written by Kirk. When you play the open E 1st string you can smoothly move back to the first position.

The tab for the 2nd bar would look like this:

----------------------------------0-------
---0-----3----10----8----------------3----
---2---------------------------------------
---0-------------------------10-----------
---2--------------------------------------
-------------------------8----------------

Hope this helps some of you.
Ed

[Kirk Lorange]

Originally Posted by toxicity

Ok I see it now. It was quick so I couldn't see that you played it with the pinky. But after that you still fret the 4th string. Is there any reason for this?

Hi toxicity ... I fret that 4th string because I'm playing an Am7 with that added note on the treble string. I always, where possible, play the whole chord (which includes that E on the 4th string), even if I'm not plucking some of the strings. It's a safety measure, I guess ... just in case my plucking finger does contact that string by mistake, at least it will be a note from the chord, and it will go unnoticed.

[Kirk Lorange]

Originally Posted by Sugarlander

The tab for the 2nd bar would look like this:

----------------------------------0-------
---0-----3----10----8----------------3----
---2---------------------------------------
---0-------------------------10-----------
---2--------------------------------------
-------------------------8----------------

That's good that you're looking for other positions to play bits that you find don't suit your hands, Ed. As we know, there are many many ways of playing exactly the same thing on a guitar, unlike a keyboard. It's quite a leap up the fretboard that you're doing there, but they're exactly the same notes, and if it feels better for you to do it that way, great.

[toxicity]

Thanks for clarifying that Kirk --- (I'll try sugarlanders approach once I get the hang of the original tab)

When I'm playing finger style I want to make sure that I'm plucking the strings with the right fingers, which is not always the case when I closely examine my right hand action. Even though the Here There Everywhere video was a bit blurry I still managed to freeze frame the right hand positions and figure out which fingers you are using for all your notes. When you get a chance or if anyone else knows, can you please check the attached pdf file of the tab and check that I am using the correct fingering. The fingering for the right hand is noted below the tab and the chord fingering is above the tab.


I find that the right hand finger action is the most difficult for the beginner and not so obvious as for the more experienced players.

Thanks again

[Sugarlander]

Originally Posted by Kirk

That's good that you're looking for other positions to play bits that you find don't suit your hands, Ed. As we know, there are many many ways of playing exactly the same thing on a guitar, unlike a keyboard. It's quite a leap up the fretboard that you're doing there, but they're exactly the same notes, and if it feels better for you to do it that way, great.

Yes, I agree that there is no one "correct" way to play it. And yes, it is very good for even beginners to be looking for other ways, usually personally easier ways, to play things.

For my hands, the one big quick slide up the neck from the D note to the A note (the A is plucked) was easier and more fluid than playing the D note and then lifting the finger and, extremely quickly, putting it on the G note, plucking the G and sliding up to A (the A is not plucked) on the first string. I just leave the little finger on the string and slide and pluck the A note. In other words, I big slide and pluck (easier for me); instead of lift, place, pluck, and little slide. I also completely avoided the bar chords up the neck (easier for me).

Regarding sound: I like the sound of the slide up to the A, as you did, but then also plucking the A melody note for emphasis. Plus the following G note rings much longer, and C bass note rings a little longer for me. I find it easier to play legato this way.

I am in no way being critical of your excellent work, Kirk. Again, there is no
"correct" way. I am just trying to get folks to think about ease of play and sound, and to offer another alternative for those that have hands like mine.

Kirk, thanks for the encouragement and your help. Great work!

[Kirk Lorange]

Originally Posted by toxicity

Thanks for clarifying that Kirk --- (I'll try sugarlanders approach once I get the hang of the original tab)

When I'm playing finger style I want to make sure that I'm plucking the strings with the right fingers, which is not always the case when I closely examine my right hand action. Even though the Here There Everywhere video was a bit blurry I still managed to freeze frame the right hand positions and figure out which fingers you are using for all your notes. When you get a chance or if anyone else knows, can you please check the attached pdf file of the tab and check that I am using the correct fingering. The fingering for the right hand is noted below the tab and the chord fingering is above the tab.


I find that the right hand finger action is the most difficult for the beginner and not so obvious as for the more experienced players.

Thanks again

Hi toxicity ...

How did you do the PDF? Did you open the GP4 file and work on it?

Your picking fingering isn't quite right ... I didn't go through the whole because I've got so many things going on right now and it needs close scrutiny, but right at measure 1 there's a descrepancy. It should read:

TA --- I --- M --- A --- TA --- I --- M

I can see that quite clearly in the movie, blurry as it is. The Thumb only plays the two bass notes, whereas you have it playing 3 notes ... to me there's no mistaking that the opening four notes are TA-I-M-A. I guess I should make the movies clearer in the future.

For those wondering, it's:

T = Thumb
I = Index
M = Middle
A = Ring

[toxicity]

Yes Kirk,

I worked on the GP4 file then I converted it to PDF. It's easier for printing out so thats why I posted it this way.

About the first measure, I actually play it the way you mention. Actually I didn't in the beginning when I was just trying to get the tune memorized but when I actually started playing close attention to you right hand I noticed that too, but somehow forgot to correct the tab that I posted.

Thats alright Kirk, I'm aware that you are busy

Thanks for your help.