[72FenderAcousticality]

I have read Kirks lesson on Keys... he used as his example the G chord.. i found that i learned alot from that lesson, but now i would like to extend it if i could and ask if anyone could help me do sort of the same thing for the other 6 keys...

Example of what i mean although im sure any of you veterans will know what im asking id just like to make it clear incase my nub talk confuses you =P

Key Of G
1) G - 000000
2) Am - 002210
3) ? - 004430
4) ? - 005550
5) ? - 007770
6) ? - 009980
7) ? - 00 10 11 10 0
8) ? - 00 1212120

if you look at Kirks Begginer Lesson on keys im sure youll understand.. i just dont know all the chord names, but basically what im getting at is, playing it all the way down the frets to the 12th fret octave... being the Chord Scale i suppose its called... i would like to know if i could have anyone post the other 6 Keys in the manner that Kirk Did in his lesson with the G Key so i can start playing Every Keys Chord Scale and memorizing them... im probably looking at this too hard and missing the point of his lesson but i am quite anxious to learn Every Key and the Chords Relating to Each all the way down the fretboard... if anyone can help me i would greatly appriciate it and.. if by chance i have confused you as much as myself please ask me to specify some more and i will try...

[allthumbs]

This lesson explains it well. It shows you where the majors and relative minors fall in a key. The trick to remember is that E to F is a natural semi tone as is B to C. This relationship and where it falls in the key o determines which chords will be sharp or flat. In the Key of C the natural semi tones fall in the right place for them to remain unchanged. The 3-4 intervals and the 7-8 intervals. All other Keys have their chords adjusted to a certain extent to change semi tones to tones and vicea versa. You say you are familiar with the key of G. The tones and one semi tone fits. The F is a problem. E to F is only a semi tone which you can't have at the 6-7 intervals. The F to G is a whole tone in the 7-8 position which again, you can't have. A semi tone only. Notice that making the F into F# now fits the formula. A whole tone between 6-7 and a half tone between 7-8.
You can work them out with a sheet of paper once you know the tone semi formula. You could also memorize the circle of fifths starting with C which will tell you how many # and bs are in each key. You have bitten off quite a large chunk of information to be digested.
You could always just google for a key chart if you want to do it that way. should be easy to find.
The Music Building

[72FenderAcousticality]

thank you very much =) and im glad to bite off such a large chunk this early.. will only make my understandings grow in the future, i will study what you said a bit more and try to digest it nice and slow but i get the concept your saying and actually have went and looked at a 1-12 fret key finder and written it in a notebook so i will try to apply this to that and figure out as much as i can by myself, =) thats the fun in teaching yourself i suppose..

[Kirk Lorange]

Originally Posted by 72FenderAcousticality

... i would like to extend it if i could and ask if anyone could help me do sort of the same thing for the other 6 keys...

Hi 72FA ...

first of all, there are 12 keys in all, not 6! Sorry about that!

Here are the most guitar-friendly keys:

G: G - Am - Bm - C - D - Em - F#dim
A: A - Bm - C#m - D - E - F#m - Gdim
C: C - Dm - Em - F - G - Am - Bdim
D: D - Em - F#m - G - A - Bm - C#dim
E: E - F#m - G#m - A - B - C#m - D#dim

They can all be written as: I - ii - iii - IV -V -vi -vii

The other 7 keys (G#, A#, B, C#, D#, F, F#) follow the same logic ... they just seem more complicated because of all the extra symbols. You'll see 'flat' keys too, but they are duplicates of the 'sharp' keys ... for example ' G sharp' is the same as ' A flat'.

Here are all 12 notes/keys:

A - A#/Bb - B - C - C#/Db - D - D#/Eb - E - F - F#/Gb - G - G#/Ab ... 12 of them.

You can see that the notes/chords come in alphabetical order. Think of ABCDEF written in a circle. There are #/b notes (and chords) between each letter except E-F and B-C ...

Don't ponder too long over the 'dim' chords, the vii chords ... they're there, the physics of music makes it so, but they come up rarely. Concentrate on the first six chords of each key. They're the ones that you should really know.

You can see already from the abbreviated list above that the same chords turn up in different keys, but never as the same Roman numeral value.

Have a look also at the Music Building lesson ... I think that may help you to see the bigger picture.

[72FenderAcousticality]

thank you much Kirk! your site has helped me progress my learning 10x faster than i would have without... i enjoy your lessons very much, and the idea of having the vid clips to show finger/hand structure helps very much!

*Cheers* to a great teacher with a great soul! free lessons =) a true teacher indeed!