slide in standard tuning - Page 2

Frankenstrat2 · #16 February 13th, 2005

Bluesman
It all sounds fine.
There really isn't any right or wrong with slide- whatever works for you.
I prefer a heavy glass slide now, I but used brass for a long time.

zak · #17 February 13th, 2005

For standard tuning slide, check out Robert Nighthawk's recordings and those of his star pupil, Earl Hooker. Earl only played slide in standard tuning and was truly a virtuoso player. Nighthawk's earliest recordings (30's) were done on acoustic guitar tuned to open E, but when he switched to electric in the 40's he played exclusively in standard tuning.

I think Muddy Waters' later stuff features some standard tuning slide on the slow tunes, though later on Muddy didn't play as much guitar as he did in the 40's and 50's.

allthumbs · #18 February 13th, 2005

pretty sweet playing there on soundclick Zac.
allthumbs

Bluesman_s · #19 February 14th, 2005

im thinking i may make a drop d brass slide out of sa piece of brass piping
one question though, what size is a "heavy"brass slide ie. thickness?
also can you buy diamondbottleneck slides here in australia or do you need to order them in?

allthumbs · #20 February 14th, 2005

some retailers carry diamond. check with their site. there is a link here to them somewhere. Let me know if they are mass producing my dropped D slide yet , i hav a couple of friends who are interested..Check out the thickness of heavy full brass slides. I imagine a dropped D is the same though I bet kirks' slides are heavier.
allthumbs

Bluesman_s · #21 February 15th, 2005

thanks for the info allthumbs
i checked the diamond bottlenecks but they don't do australia officialy
but i might be able to find one.
i couldnt see any mention of drop d slides therebut the length of there slides is customisable when ordering, they mention the 50/50 in the news but its not on the main products list yet.
i may buy a heavy brass slide and cut it to size, if i do about what length should i go [for a stereotypical drop d slide]?
and what would i need to do to smoth the cut out

allthumbs · #22 February 15th, 2005

My slide is exactly 2 and 13/16 inches.I imagine any hardware store could tell you the best way to smooth the edges. Diamond was planing to release their D slide in May so I am surprised they have not made mention of it yet. In May ,Kirk goes home so we will be able to get his brass slides again hopefuly soon after.
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randy_mc · #23 June 11th, 2005

I play everything in standard tuning.
Open tunings are cool, though. They have their own resonance.
But, I didn't want to have to switch guitars to play slide. Also, the fretboard patterns are all there. Playing in open E is like having to think in a different language for me. It takes some finesse to get the classic "Duane-ism's" down on standard tuning. The slide has to traverse more "fret space," but once you get it going its a-okay. Someone pointed out that the right hand technique has to be more precise, and I think they're right.

Behind the slide technique has been a great thing to work with.
You can form major and minor triads, arpeggiate chords, and hit both major and minor thirds for lead phrases. String skipping is something else I've worked up for leads. I've had a good time playing "Blue Wind" and "Star Cycle" by Jeff Beck lately.

Randy

Frankenstrat2 · #24 June 11th, 2005

And practice makes perfect too.
Memphis, huh?
Mmmm. Dry rub.

randy_mc · #25 June 11th, 2005

you have to go to the Rendevous for the dry rub (which is my personal favorite!).

Randy

Frankenstrat2 · #26 June 11th, 2005

Been there done that. Outstanding.
Love Memphis. Truly great town for music and food- two of my favorite pastimes.

John · #27 June 11th, 2005

Aww...I haven't been able to lock myself in to one tuning, although I'd like to, just for convenience sake.

See, it's the third string that kills me. My favorite slide tuning is in Open "D", and the third string is tuned to F#, which provides the 3rd in the D major chord triad. It makes for that really fat slide sound, and the licks just sort of fall into place with no effort at all. However, it does sort of 'lock you in' in terms of playing flexability.

The solution would seem to be dropped D, but I have problems with that as well. I find myself reaching down and grabbing the third string, which is tuned to G in standard or dropped D, and the dissounance is really grim. The other problem I have in dropped D, is that I forget I'm IN dropped D, and I continually try to play open A and E chords, or reach up to the third fret and give the "E" a wiggle--only it's not G, it's F....just messes me up.

I dunno what I'm gonna do... :roll:

Frankenstrat2 · #28 June 11th, 2005

What are the notes you are tuning to for open D please? Low to high.

allthumbs · #29 June 11th, 2005

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Originally Posted by Cheap Jazz Box

Aww...I haven't been able to lock myself in to one tuning, although I'd like to, just for convenience sake.

See, it's the third string that kills me. My favorite slide tuning is in Open "D", and the third string is tuned to F#, which provides the 3rd in the D major chord triad. It makes for that really fat slide sound, and the licks just sort of fall into place with no effort at all. However, it does sort of 'lock you in' in terms of playing flexability.

The solution would seem to be dropped D, but I have problems with that as well. I find myself reaching down and grabbing the third string, which is tuned to G in standard or dropped D, and the dissounance is really grim. The other problem I have in dropped D, is that I forget I'm IN dropped D, and I continually try to play open A and E chords, or reach up to the third fret and give the "E" a wiggle--only it's not G, it's F....just messes me up.

I dunno what I'm gonna do... :roll:

Give yourself time. Your muscle memory is taking your fingers to the wrong place. Your gonna have to think it through for a while.

John · #30 June 11th, 2005

Open "D"--D,A,D,F#,A,d

...yeah, I'm sure it's just a muscle memory thang...but you know what I mean, right? How many songs can you think of that incorporate crashing down on the open A chord in standard tuning, than reaching up with another finger to the low E string to grab that G note on the third fret for some accent? It causes me loads of frustration to have to reach up to the 5th fret to grab the same note in Open "D" and dropped "D" tuning :roll: