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August 27th, 2006
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Question On The Recording Lesson
I pretty much have the tutorial on standard soundcards done (go here), and now I've been thinking about how to cover the section on recording soundcards. But these come in a much wider variety than standard soundcards and have various connections such as 1/4", XLR, RCA, S/PDIF, High-Z inputs, etc... All of these are quite common, so for each section I would have to include connections for all of these and it could be more of a hassle than it's worth since most of the basics are already covered in the standard soundcard section.
So my question is, would anyone mind if I skipped the recording soundcards lesson and just left it at the standard soundcards?
-tkr
'Cause I don't wanna read the book, I'll watch the movie.
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August 27th, 2006
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No problem here,mate. Skip away
Your 'standard soundcard' lesson did a great job of covering connection in general,  After all,anybody needing card specific help can always ask here anyways.
Keep up the fine work,man. These lessons are pitched right for newcomers to understand , yet have enough detail to fill in some gaps for the people who want to refine their sounds. Good Job!
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August 27th, 2006
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Originally Posted by OldG
After all,anybody needing card specific help can always ask here anyways.
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That's what I was thinking as well. I just don't see how I could cover everything for recording cards since all of them are so different, but specific questions are much easier to answer.
I'm glad you're enjoying the lessons.
Also, I just added one more section about connecting tape decks (RCA type connections) since I had the picture of the RCA connector I figured I'd stick something in the lesson about them.
-tkr
'Cause I don't wanna read the book, I'll watch the movie.
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January 23rd, 2007
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IM not sure if I have this set up right as I can not adjust the volume of the mic /guitar in the line in the gauge is right down the bottom of the gauge (the gauge im talking about is beside the monitor button on the Audio input screen 1)
The way I have it set up is on the mixer screen the Audio input 1 of the mixer screen, e is orange and waver selected in AUDIO OUTPUT MME1 is pressed
In the Audio input screen 1 in the top waver 1 box I have MME1 selected
then if I change to line in and change the audio input in mixer screen to ASIO4all v2 selected its very distorted jumpy like its intermittent but you can hear it through speakers muffled
So are my settings wrong
In mixer and waver I can choose between Kristal waver, Kristal input, or no input
In same screen under AUDIO OUTPUT I can choose MME-SIS 7018 WAVER, ASIO4ALL V2, and OR NO IN PUT
And in audio input 1 screen I can choose between not record and mme sis7018 wave when I select MME on the audio output in mixer screen
Or if I select asio1 there I can choose mme sis7018wave, 1sis 7018 wave 1 or 2sis 7018 wave 2
Hope this all makes sense
can anyone help me
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January 23rd, 2007
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Originally Posted by busaclub
then if I change to line in and change the audio input in mixer screen to ASIO4all v2 selected its very distorted jumpy like its intermittent but you can hear it through speakers muffled
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Hey busaclub,
I don't know if this will help with that issue, but I like to disable all other devices that are not in use. Since you have ASIO4ALL you should disable all of the MME devices (you won't need them). Follow the instructions here and after that all you will have left is the ASIO devices. If you still have this distortion problem, then you may want to re-install ASIO4ALL again. Also, have you tried rebooting your computer? Sometimes that can fix random issues.
Have you checked the volume going into your soundcard and made sure you're not driving the input to hard (that could cause distortion). And have you checked out this lesson to make sure the volume is set correctly on your soundcard? Without being there in person it's hard to tell what exactly is causing the problem, so I'm trying to eliminate all possible sources.
If this is a driver issue, then you could post on the the ASIO4ALL forum and see if someone there can help get you sorted out.
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In mixer and waver I can choose between Kristal waver, Kristal input, or no input
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Are you trying to record with Kristal or use effects plugins live in Kristal (like a guitar processor)? The Kristal Waver input is used for recording and the Kristal Input is used for live monitoring.
-tkr
'Cause I don't wanna read the book, I'll watch the movie.
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January 24th, 2007
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hi tekker
no i want to do is record so i should be selecting waver then yes how do you turn up the recording level for the mic on kristal?
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January 24th, 2007
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Originally Posted by busaclub
no i want to do is record so i should be selecting waver then yes
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Yes. That is correct.
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how do you turn up the recording level for the mic on kristal?
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You do that from your soundcard's mixer window. This tutorial explains how to use it to set the volume in Kristal (or any recording program).
-tkr
'Cause I don't wanna read the book, I'll watch the movie.
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January 24th, 2007
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yea ok i did use the volume there to adjust the recording but even when it is up full the input meter is right down at the bottom
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January 24th, 2007
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Originally Posted by busaclub
yea ok i did use the volume there to adjust the recording but even when it is up full the input meter is right down at the bottom
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Are you in the mixer for "recording" and not "playback"? (Just making sure.  )
Do you hear sound from the speakers when you play?
Which input are you plugged into on your soundcard, the mic input or line input?
-tkr
'Cause I don't wanna read the book, I'll watch the movie.
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January 25th, 2007
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Originally Posted by Tekker
Are you in the mixer for "recording" and not "playback"? (Just making sure.  )
Do you hear sound from the speakers when you play?
Which input are you plugged into on your soundcard, the mic input or line input?
-tkr
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yes i think iam in the right mixer if what you mean is the recording one thats with xp all volume s there are up full
as regards the sound from, speakers yes i can hear my voice or guitat through them
i am plugged into the line in
a question in the mixer on kristal in Audio input what should i choose from drop window for recording MME OR ASIO4ALL?
Also when setting up ASIO you say go to engine --->programs -> devices menu where is that ?
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January 25th, 2007
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Originally Posted by busaclub
i am plugged into the line in
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Ok, and in the recording mixer do you have the box for "line in" checked? If the mic input is checked, then switch to line in and that should fix it. Only one of these will work at a time.
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a question in the mixer on kristal in Audio input what should i choose from drop window for recording MME OR ASIO4ALL?
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Either one will work for recording, but ASIO gives lower latency (shorter delay when recording).
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Also when setting up ASIO you say go to engine --->programs -> devices menu where is that ?
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I just checked and I had called it "properties", but it's really called "preferences" in Kristal, so that was a typo... It's fixed now.
So in Kristal, there is a menu across the top called "engine", and the second option down is called "preferences". Then the preferences box opens up and the last option on the left is called "Devices". Click on Devices and that will display a list of all of the audio devices on your computer. That will get you to where you need to be.
-tkr
'Cause I don't wanna read the book, I'll watch the movie.
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January 30th, 2007
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i just cant this to work i got a pre amp today and the sound card failed again i could not hear through the speaker untill i restarted the computer
just like to say thanks for your help to tkr
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