Magnetic P/up

LightninBoy · #1 March 4th, 2006

I'm looking for a cheap magnetic P/up thin enough to fit under the strings at the end of the neck on my National Duolian.
Bartolini make one but I believe it is very expensive.
I don't want to cut holes etc. just stick it on.

Any idea's?

Barry?

Toxer · #2 March 5th, 2006

Why have you chosen magnetic p/up, not piezo?

LightninBoy · #3 March 5th, 2006

Toxer,
I mic my resonator guitars with an AKG C1000s, and its the best way to reproduce an authentic cone sound IMO.
However, at some gig's, I've found it hard to get enough volume without feedback, even after extensive manipulation of the graphic equalizer.
A p/up used in conjuntion with the mic will give me the extra volume I need at certain venue's.
I don't really like Piezo's that much, as they can sound a little thin to me.
I had a Highlander under biscuit snake on a Dobro brass body duolian, and I didn't really like it either.
A magnetic p/up isn't really any better for a pure acoustic tone, as it give's more of an electric guitar tone, but when used with a mic, this doesn't matter so much, its only for a little added volume.
There is the added bonus of being able to turn down the mic, plug the p/up into and amp, dial in some overdrive and start cookin up a storm a la Hat fitz, Eric Sardinas or Johnny Winter.

Toxer · #4 March 8th, 2006

Once I came across a site on the net where the man told he replaced his single p/up with small "rail" (as he called it) dual-coil p/up. I'll try to search for some ifo about that kind of p/up.

I haven't seen a p/up as thick as that, the only sensible that comes to my mind is get a custom one. Here in russia rewinding of a p-up costs about 15$ (don't know about America), so the biggest problem in making a p/up is to get a magnet of needed shape.

There is a crazy thing you can do) - to place the p/up over the strings, but that's the last thing I would do if I were in your shoes.

LightninBoy · #5 March 10th, 2006

Thanks Toxer.

Toxer · #6 March 13th, 2006

Sorry, LightninBoy, no contact with the man I wrote before. Didn't have much time to search for anything that would sute you. I'll be trying...

And one more note - I don't think that having a p/up will be of a great help to you since the feadback level depends on the volume of sound from the speakers that "falls" on youe mike, not the whole volume that comes from mic. and p/up. the p/up will help in tearms of equalizing as he has amplitude-frequency characteristics different from that of a mike. So the feadback level will rise but not by the full volume that the p/up gives.

Another suggestion would be to move the speakers forward so that they were not behind you, but at least by your sides, but I do uderstand that's not possible in most cases.

Another thing is interference/interference fringes - dont know the propper tearm. But if you are moving on the stage, that's not the reason for feadback.

LightninBoy · #7 March 13th, 2006

A p/up will help a great deal with extra volume Toxer, as I described.
It boosts frequencies that the mic doesn't cover so well.
I'm speaking from experience, not guessing, or just something I read.
And the front house is always well forward.

Toxer · #8 March 13th, 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightninBoy

A p/up will help a great deal with extra volume Toxer, as I described.
It boosts frequencies that the mic doesn't cover so well.

In fact your last phrase in just what I wanted to say. I just underestimated the effect.

Toxer · #9 March 14th, 2006

Sorry, LightninBoy, I haven't found anything that would sute you.