Caged? - Page 2

Chaotic Kittie · July 24th, 2006

I've heard this being mentioned a lot here... especially when people are talking about PT.
What is it?

allthumbs · #16 August 14th, 2006

Nope. Open D chord, barred C form(bar at second fret), barred A form (bar at 5 fret).
Barred G form(barred at the 6 fret), E form Barred at the 10th fret. D shape (barred 12 fret)
Very few people have the stretch need for the barred G form BTW.

iltpff · #17 August 14th, 2006

Oh well, I guess I need to somehow figure this out because I am thourougly confused now. I also am wondering how this applies to the chords that you have to play in a key? The CAGED system does not seem like it has anything to do with that, but I am noit sure....

Cedric01 · #18 August 14th, 2006

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Originally Posted by iliketoplayforfun

Oh well, I guess I need to somehow figure this out because I am thourougly confused now. I also am wondering how this applies to the chords that you have to play in a key? The CAGED system does not seem like it has anything to do with that, but I am noit sure....

No need to worry, I have a solution for you. Get the book called "Fretboard RoadMaps" by Fred Sokolow. This book will answer all your questions clearly concerning this issue and it will help you greatly to play lead and rhythm anywhere on your fretboard. You can pick it up at your local music hang out or you can purchase it from these friendly folks at www.musicdispatch.com

allthumbs · #19 August 14th, 2006

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Originally Posted by iliketoplayforfun

Oh well, I guess I need to somehow figure this out because I am thourougly confused now. I also am wondering how this applies to the chords that you have to play in a key? The CAGED system does not seem like it has anything to do with that, but I am noit sure....

It has nothing to do with keys. It is just a simple way for you to find the same chord in 6 different places on the neck with different fingering.

cayenne · #20 August 17th, 2006

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Originally Posted by Cedric01

No need to worry, I have a solution for you. Get the book called "Fretboard RoadMaps" by Fred Sokolow. This book will answer all your questions clearly concerning this issue and it will help you greatly to play lead and rhythm anywhere on your fretboard. You can pick it up at your local music hang out or you can purchase it from these friendly folks at www.musicdispatch.com

I went to amazon.com looking for the fredboard roadmaps book by this guy. It appears there are a BUNCH of them...one looks more generic, (guitar techniques), but, he seems to have them for rock guitar, blues guitar, dobro...etc. Is one better than the other? Or are they slanted just more for each style?

cayenne

737blues · #21 August 17th, 2006

He has a page or two in most of his books about the caged idea, I think. I have his 'Fretboard Roadmaps - Blues ' and that has two pages about CAGED. To be honest I think you'd do as well to Google for CAGED if all you want is information about the CAGED system.

(Not to be taken as a criticism of Mr. Sokolow's otherwise excellent books BTW, just a comment on the reference to CAGED theory the copy I have contains)

cayenne · #22 August 18th, 2006

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Originally Posted by 737blues

He has a page or two in most of his books about the caged idea, I think. I have his 'Fretboard Roadmaps - Blues ' and that has two pages about CAGED. To be honest I think you'd do as well to Google for CAGED if all you want is information about the CAGED system.

(Not to be taken as a criticism of Mr. Sokolow's otherwise excellent books BTW, just a comment on the reference to CAGED theory the copy I have contains)

Any thoughts on the Fretboard Logic series? I saw a set of that on Amazon.com, that had a DVD, and vol 1-3 in one set.

Any opinions on that set? It seemed to be rated a bit higher than the Roadmaps stuff.

TIA,

cayenne

allthumbs · #23 August 18th, 2006

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Originally Posted by cayenne

Any thoughts on the Fretboard Logic series? I saw a set of that on Amazon.com, that had a DVD, and vol 1-3 in one set.

Any opinions on that set? It seemed to be rated a bit higher than the Roadmaps stuff.

TIA,

cayenne

I looked at it but, it was to compex for me to deal with. I much prefer the elegent simplicty and depth of P.T.

737blues · #24 August 19th, 2006

Well yes, if you're thinking of buying books, PT beats it hands down. You won't need anything else.

#25 August 25th, 2006

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Originally Posted by iltpff

Buddy, regarding your first comment about the CAGED system, how do you know what type of form you are supposed to be using at a certain fret, i.e., when you say "D" shaped bar chord, are you talking about the bar first, then form a d chord with the rest of your fingers like you would a normal "D" chord shape at the second fret?

In reference to your second comment about playing the A shapped barre chord, I thought two frets up would be some form of a "B" as it is a whole step? How is this different with teh CAGED system?

Anthony

Hi Anthony,
sorry to be so slow to get back
- you know which inversion to play at which fret by knowing where the tonic or root note (aka the I in Plane Talk) is.

For the C major chord with the C at the 8th fret on the first string is the tonic of either the G shaped C major inversion or the E shaped C major inversion.

If you use the C at the 3rd fret on the 5th string that can be used to generate either your open C shaped Cmajor chord or your A shaped Cmajor which is the barre chord at fret 3.

If you choose the C at fret10 on the fourth string that produces the D shape of C major.

Your problem in the second part of the question comes about because of the clumsy wording of the system we use .I was talking about the A and the G shaped forms of C major. A chord can have the A shape and be any major chord. Whether it is a B or an A will depend on its root note.
When we move from the A shaped C at fret 3, to the G shaped C at fret 5 we are moving from one chord with its root on the 5th string at the 3rd fret to the next one with the root on the 6th string at the 8th fret.