C Blues Shuffle - Page 2

Burps · March 27th, 2006

Hi Folks,

.....took the liberty of playing alto sax on chorus 1 and 3...leaving the 2nd and 4th chorus for guitar...any takers ?

........the sax line is a wee tribute to Charlie 'Bird ' Parker...hope it takes you to the right zone.

...........look forward to hearing some solo's.

.........thanks Kirk for the shuffle groove and the chromatic section...felt good.

......yo'll take care now.

Burps

fly135 · #16 July 10th, 2006

Good job Jim! I've been playing with this too. Mostly mimicing the sax part and playing along with it. Nothing good enough to post, but it's fun and expanding my horizons.

Jim · #17 July 10th, 2006

Thanks fly!

You should post when you feel up to it. We're all (well, most of us anyway!) learning to solo, and even though I've made some great clinkers that I've posted, it's always a learning experience. We often don't know we're making certain mistakes until we make them publicly, and get feedback that helps us get it right. I'll bet you're playing better than you're giving yourself credit for.

Jim

krissovo · #18 July 10th, 2006

Hi All

I love the feel to this and would love to join in, how do you start to solo??????

Do you take say in this instance a C scale and play them in your own order? If anyone has a link to a good site about soloing I would appriciate it as all I have found is confusing sites.

fly135 · #19 July 10th, 2006

Jim, trust me I'm giving myself all the credit I deserve

. One thing that's slowing my posting is that I've got a lot of irons in the fire. I work on this a bit, Bad Moon Rising, the Hawaii 5 Oh track, Twist and Shout and other odds and ends. The good news is that I can tell that I am improving little by little on everything I'm working on. The bad news is that my tempo and timing when playing again a backing track is still horrible.

I record myself continually, so I really have a good idea of a lot of my flaws. But you will be seeing me post more stuff soon. Hopefully sooner than later. My ability to adlib solo stuff is pretty bad right now. That's why on this particular track I stuck to playing the sax part as best as I could get it.

Jim · #20 July 10th, 2006

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Originally Posted by krissovo

Hi All

I love the feel to this and would love to join in, how do you start to solo??????

Do you take say in this instance a C scale and play them in your own order? If anyone has a link to a good site about soloing I would appriciate it as all I have found is confusing sites.

If you haven't done soloing yet, then the best way to correctly learn (so that you really know what you're doing) is probably to get Kirk's PlaneTalk book and/or DVD. That way you will know all the notes on the fretboard, and as long as you know what chord progression is being played (and for Blues and many backing tracks like this it's usually just 3 chords - the I, IV and V chords of whatever key the piece is in - so in a C Shuffle, the chords are C, F and G (or they can be 7ths like C7, F7, G7 - but same idea) then you know the notes that will fit in with those chords and can play with them and come up with a solo that both fits in the the chords being played, and also sounds nice and melodic - to have a melody rather than random chord/scale notes makes the difference between a good solo and a boring one!

I have kind of a disadvantage in that I learned scales MANY years ago, and so I've got the pentatonic (major and minor), Blues, as well as major/minor scales burned into my brain and fingers, and although I bought PlaneTalk, I still find myself using the pentatonic or blues scales as a framework for the soloing, and then using my ear to figure how to use those to get as good a melody as I can - and I use my ear as well to know what off-scale notes will sound good at a particular point in the piece - or just to be used to transisition between scale notes (passing tones is anothe name for these). So for me, I have to kind of unlearn the hardwired muscle memory scales and try to think more about the chords I'm over and what chord tones will work. To be honest, I sometimes do this, and sometimes fall back on the easier scale methods to solo. And sometimes I get a good melodic solo, and sometimes ... not.

So, if you haven't gotten Planetalk, that is my recommendation to get started soloing! I guarantee you won't be sorry because you will learn SO much about the guitar and how to the maximum out of it.

Jim

Jim · #21 July 10th, 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by fly135

Jim, trust me I'm giving myself all the credit I deserve

. One thing that's slowing my posting is that I've got a lot of irons in the fire. I work on this a bit, Bad Moon Rising, the Hawaii 5 Oh track, Twist and Shout and other odds and ends. The good news is that I can tell that I am improving little by little on everything I'm working on. The bad news is that my tempo and timing when playing again a backing track is still horrible.

I record myself continually, so I really have a good idea of a lot of my flaws. But you will be seeing me post more stuff soon. Hopefully sooner than later. My ability to adlib solo stuff is pretty bad right now. That's why on this particular track I stuck to playing the sax part as best as I could get it.

I understand fly! As long as you're recording yourself and listening, then you are listening closely to the progress you're making, and I know that you'll know when you're ready to go online with your music.

Do you play regularly with a metronome (either a physical one or a free PC download)? That's helped me a lot with getting my tempo and timing better. Also, Ben helped me about with downloading ASIO drivers (I think that's the right name) for Audacity that minimize latency in recording on a computer (which makes it sound like your timing is off, when actually it's the computer not keeping up and recording you accurately). That's helped a lot also in my recordings at least sounding more like I actually played them!

Playing the sax part is a great way to get into soloing in this piece! If you can get that sound down, then doing some of your own variations on it will make your solos your own.

Jim

wjp01908 · #22 July 11th, 2006

Hi All

New to the forum but couldn`t resist a quick jam to this infectious backing

Go easy on me!

fly135 · #23 July 11th, 2006

Good stuff wjp!

allthumbs · #24 July 11th, 2006

Nicely done.

Jim · #25 July 11th, 2006

Nice playing wjp! No need to have to go easy.

You did really good on that.

And welcome to the site!

Jim

Keidon · #26 October 14th, 2006

Just going over some earlier Backings & found yours to listen to - Very sexy Sax man.
Sax is such a sassy sound. I wanted to play sax when I was younger - couldn't afford one, but then got into Guitar. How Long you bin playin???

And Hey, I noticed we are almost neighbours - The Pocket via Billi........

Burps · #27 October 14th, 2006

.........glad you enjoyed it Keidon. - Perhaps you could over-dub a solo and post it in for all to hear.

Best wishes

Burps

gollo · #28 October 14th, 2006

I just want to say Burps, I loved the sax playing, really emotional and atmospheric.

Here's my little addition, be gentle with me it's my first attempt at something like this

allthumbs · #29 October 14th, 2006

Hey gollo. You did good.

Burps · #30 October 14th, 2006

........thanks Gollo, glad it hit the spot for you. - I liked your 1st chorus...some say, " Less is more " - I think that's true in a lot of cases. - I'll try and put together a shuffle backing soon for all you guitar hipsters.

All the best

Burps