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September 6th, 2007
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ok, i got some poker winnings in my pocket and a new source of regular income..... i will be oredering PT soon. quick question: $13 s/h from Australia..... what type of shipping? 1st class....?
oh, and any cynics or naysayers about?
"All music is folk music cuz I never heard a horse sing."
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September 6th, 2007
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Um, airplane, that's all I know. You'll love it! 
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September 6th, 2007
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...oh, and any cynics or naysayers about?
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St. Jo - Do a Google search and check it out. Even if one wanted to use the "conspiracy theory" that Kirk and Clancy would censor and/or delete any negative feedback about PT here, you know that dissatisfied customers would be slamming it elsewhere around the 'net if they thought it was a rip-off. There are plenty of guitar forums where people could go talk trash if they so desired.
I was very skeptical about PT before ordering it - I've spent too much money on too many guitar DVDs and instruction books and been much less than satisfied with most of them. Nevertheless, I gave Kirk the benefit of the doubt - and am 100% convinced that it's the best money I've ever spent on any guitar instruction material.
Mac
"I wish I could play that fast - then I would have the option of not doing that."
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September 6th, 2007
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Air Mail 1st class, st_jo.
Thanks, guys. 
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September 6th, 2007
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oh, and any cynics or naysayers about?
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Not I.  You will love it!
I do think there needs to be a change to the FAQ though. I think this is a GREAT book for beginners to see the theory behind the chords they are learning. The DVD is probably too advanced for the beginner level, but the book is great read for beginners IMO. Theory explained at a very basic level that gives something else to work on away from the guitar.
This is essential information and the sooner it's learned the better.
-tkr
'Cause I don't wanna read the book, I'll watch the movie.
Tekker's Lessons on GfB&B: Music Theory, Recording, and General Guitar
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September 6th, 2007
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ok, i got some poker winnings in my pocket and a new source of regular income..... i will be oredering PT soon. quick question: $13 s/h from Australia..... what type of shipping? 1st class....?
oh, and any cynics or naysayers about?
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Poker, so your a gambler eh?
Let me put it in gambling lingo, It's a sure thing 
Walk softly, carry an M16
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February 18th, 2008
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Kirk, I'm trying to figure out if I am a candidate for Plane Talk.
I have been playing guitar for nearly 10 years, but I started with acoustic, and was only thinking of learning a few cords so that I could play praise music for youth groups. I got better and better at playing cords, but then stagnated. Last year, I bought an electric guitar just to see what electrics were all about, and it ignited a passion to learn more. I am still playing cords, and I saw myself as more of a rhythm player. I do know the concept of scale, but only recently thought that I should really start practicing them. I do play some cords up the neck, but I don't play melody, or scales yet.
Am I ready for Plane Talk, or would it be over my head?
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February 20th, 2008
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Hi, pastorbob. I don't think PlaneTalk would be over anyone's head really. The main gist of it is so simple and straight forward that all but a real beginner would wonder what it's about.
If you're looking up the neck now, wondering how to make sense of it, wondering how to turn it all into usable, friendly fretboard, whether playing chords or making melody, you'll benefit from the lesson it teaches. It truly does 'decode' it all, gives you a reliable constant against which you can measure all that stuff ... it also allows you to pretty much bypass all that scale and mode practice. We players should all know what they are and where they differ, etc., but there really is no need to practice them endlessly unless you want to play scales and modes. Melody is something else, and PT will show you how to create melody from another angle.
I don't think you will regret ordering it you do, in fact I'm confident you will agree with me after tinkering with it for a little while that it's the most powerful guitar lesson you'll ever learn. If not, you can come here and the private PlaneTalkers' Forum and tell us all what a waste of money it was.
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February 20th, 2008
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Originally Posted by Kirk Lorange
Hi, pastorbob. I don't think PlaneTalk would be over anyone's head really. The main gist of it is so simple and straight forward that all but a real beginner would wonder what it's about.
If you're looking up the neck now, wondering how to make sense of it, wondering how to turn it all into usable, friendly fretboard, whether playing chords or making melody, you'll benefit from the lesson it teaches. It truly does 'decode' it all, gives you a reliable constant against which you can measure all that stuff ... it also allows you to pretty much bypass all that scale and mode practice. We players should all know what they are and where they differ, etc., but there really is no need to practice them endlessly unless you want to play scales and modes. Melody is something else, and PT will show you how to create melody from another angle.
I don't think you will regret ordering it you do, in fact I'm confident you will agree with me after tinkering with it for a little while that it's the most powerful guitar lesson you'll ever learn. If not, you can come here and the private PlaneTalkers' Forum and tell us all what a waste of money it was.
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Thanks Kirk for helping me understand where Plane Talk is in relation to where I am. Your "plain" talk couldn't have been any better! I have no doubt that it would not be a waste of money. I am a big believer in the concept that knowledge gained is never a waste. We may not understand how to apply it at first, but knowledge aquired will be there when the moment to apply it arrives. Give me a few days, and then I will make my order. Kirk, I appreciate your time in answering my question.
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March 2nd, 2008
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Bob--
I know it's already been said here in this thread and a million times elsewhere...
There are so many guitar 'lessons' and 'trick books' and 'methods' out there, it's incredible. Do most of them have valuable info? Absolutely. Are most of them presented in a way that can be easily absorbed and understood? Hardly!
PT is presented in such a brilliantly simple way that I believe most guitarists will immediately see the benefit, whether they soak it all up right away or not. One of the most immediate benefits is that there are several little lightbulbs that go off right up front so that it makes the book a page turner.
Bob, you always see yourself as a rhythm player. Excellent! That's what it takes to be good at this!
Steve
Steve Cass
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Becoming a great guitarist has less to do with fancy moves than it does becoming a master of the basics and learning musicianship.
It's not what you can't do. It's how you play what you already know. Lessons for the Beginner and Beyond"Rhythm guitar is a trip that alot of people miss" -- Tom Petty
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March 2nd, 2008
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Thanks guys! I did make the order, and I am looking forward to the material!
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March 4th, 2008
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I have read this entire thread at least 87 times trying to figure out if I am ready for this and I have decided that I am, maybe, sorta, kind of, what the heck what can I lose? I can only learn things. I seem to fit in to pasterbob's skill level and interests.
However I have looked everywhere and the only two payment methods I find are either Paypal or credit card. I do not have a Paypal account and I will not put my credit card number out over the internet. If I needed a heart transplant I wouldn't do it. I am old so I am rather stuck in my ways.
Is there a phone number I can use to complete the transaction? If not, I will have to work with my son in another city to order this through his Paypal account.
Sorry to be a pain. Thanks for any info you can give me.
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March 4th, 2008
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Hi Gasbag, scroll down to the bottom of the page and use "contact us" should be able to work something out I'm sure.
Your gonna luv PT 
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March 4th, 2008
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Hi Gasbag, scroll down to the bottom of the page and use "contact us" should be able to work something out I'm sure.
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Thanks. I did not even know that was there. I will give it a try.
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March 5th, 2008
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Hi, gasbag ... I've been traveling the last couple of days so this is the first chance I've had to respond.
I'm afraid I no longer have a merchant account, so phoning me would not work; I think asking your son to use his Paypal account is the best way, but I have to say that I've been buying stuff off the Internet for years now, using both my credit cards and my Paypal account and I've never once had anything bad happen to me. I think it's much safer than using cards in restaurants and gas stations where all kinds of people can look at the paperwork. That's when I worry!
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