[hb]

I hope I can get my question across in a clear manner, so here goes:
In a LOT of sheet music that I have, I'm reading the melody notes in the staff and the chords are listed above the staff. There are an awful lot of times that the chord change is listed right at the end of a measure above a note that has a tie to the next measure. Almost always, the chord change is not supposed to occur until the next measure and I was wondering why this is. I tried to write a couple of measures out on this post, but it wouldn't come up right when previewing. Hope someone can understand what I'm talking about!

Thanks in advance,
hb

[Ben_Sir_Amos]

Now I've just got to know, what was the song, hb?

[hb]

I'd be glad to say, but after having the two bars deleted, I am hesitant to say. I can say that I see music written like this on 90% of the sheet music I have. Perhaps someone with a true education in reading music can elaborate. I still think it might have something to do with the note being tied between two bars.....just a guess. If a moderator says it's okay to post the title, I will.
thanks for the help,
hb

[allthumbs]

No problem HB. The lawyers haven't figured out how to copyright song titles...yet. What really killed that pic was the lyrics under the notation. A chord progression can't be copyrighted though I have doubts about a signature tune like Cool Shot by SRV for instance. As soon as lyrics are added, that alters the progression from a generic chord run to specific songs.
It would have been fine if you had hand written and posted just the chord progression.
Even though the part of the tune you posted was generic, the pic was taken from some king of music book, it looks like. If you check the front or back inside cover, more than likely you will see a copyright notice.

[Ben_Sir_Amos]

I have got a true education in reading music and I thought I had explained but I can have another go.

If you've got chord diagrams written on the sheet music you have the easy guitar version. If the easy guitar version mirrored the standard notation exactly, it would be very complicated so it is simplified. If they didn't simplify it it would be so complicated that they would have to devise some alternative system for notation.

But there are already other forms of notation. Two other forms of notation that are far better than chord diagrams are TAB - which has certain limitations but is popular among some guitarists. And the other system is standard notation which which can be used by musicians to communicate with each other regardless of which instrument they play.

So if you are asking why is the simplified guitar version not as accurate as the complicated version it is because it is simplified.

Does that make sense?

Now you've been cleared to reveal the name of the song. Go on. I didn't care what it was called when I could see the two bars, but now they've been removed I really want to know what it was.

[starsailor]

I think you can post the Song title hb, a song title as far as I know can't be copyrighted, Copyright only comes into play when words are arranged in a defined way as a story, poem, song etc. chords and notes can't be copyrighted either unless they're reproduced in the same way as another song ie My Sweet Lord (George Harrison), I'm getting dejavu I think we've discussed this before.

Allthumbs is just acting in the best interest of the site, the copyright police are pretty rampant at the moment and sites are dropping like flies and I personally wouldn't want to see this site go the same way, I'd always back the Moderators 100% on this one.
In retrospect may be it's best to wait for a Moderator although I think I'm right about this.

Result hb, I want to know what the song is now, I'm curious

[hb]

allthumbs:
I did originally try to write the two measures on this post screen, but when I went to "preview post" , everything was jumbled and would have not made any sense, so after about a half an hour fiddling with it, I thought, what the hey, I'll send a photo!
The song is an absolute gas to play if you've got a GOOD midi behind it............it's "How Long" by the Eagles, just released a few months ago. Not that hard to play, either.
Regarding sheet music, I have found that midis are all over and if you have a program like Notation Musician, it will turn the midi to sheet music and you can do all kinds of cool things with it at that point. It's one of the best $50 I ever spent!
Thanks to all for you answers. You've been a big help.
hb

[allthumbs]

I ran into that problem too hb, if it is the same one. What it is, I think, is that spaces aren't recognized as such in posts so the program automatically removes them and you end up with everything scrunched over to the left. I use --- or ____ to denote spaces or notation lines now.

[hb]

Right! I thought about trying it on a word program or something, but if the receiver doesn't have that program, it's all for naught. I was trying to make vertical lines also, and that didn't work very well either.
hb

[solidwalnut]

hb--

It's a bit time consuming, but you can use the vB code to get what you want.

You can do something like this:

if you wanted to write a series of chord letters, such as CGEFD and give spaces in between, write something like this:

C.....G....E........F....D

Now highlight the period characters (one set at a time) and select font colors (the 'A' with the thick black line) and select the silver color and it becomes

C.....G....E........F....D

But the actual background color of the forum is '#eeeeee', so substitute the #eeeeee for Silver and you get

C.....G....E........F....D

Be sure to keep the #eeeeee in between the quote symbols.

Steve

[solidwalnut]

hb--

Just another quick note as to why the original picture was also part of a copyright infringement:

The book itself from which it came has a copyright on that collection of music.

Steve

[hb]

Thanks! I knew, though, typing what I wanted to ask was never going to get through. That was the main reason for the pic. I think one could use what I did though, if the chord diagram and words were not in the pic, and it did not contain a lot of measures. Am I right?
hb

[allthumbs]

As a chord progression with nothing to identify it to a particular tune then you could in theory. This is where it gets tricky. Say somebody put together a book of The 20 Greatest Hits of 1901. All the tunes would be in the public domain but, in the context of that copyrighted book the phrase Reproduction of this material is prohibited by..yada..yahda..yahda would apply. That means no scanning, copying, pics etc directly from the book. it is kind of a mute point because it would be difficult to prove specifics unless there was some blemish that established that an exact copy had been made.
So not only does a tune have to be public domain, it has to be IN the public domain.