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it very well could be. I assumed it was a new guitar and that's not ever been an issue w/any of the new guitars I've dealt with; in fact they typcially go the opposite direction and they're sunk too low. But you're right, a high pickup will do that too.

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Mine was produced in the 90's bought it 2nd hand.
I tried many way of adjusting the pick ups , gain , bass ,etc.
can't get it to work..

so if i need to solve the problem i need to adjust the action higher?
i don't really know how to do that.. bing it to a shop?

When u say adjust the pup , u mean the knob or?

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pup is slang for pickup. If the pickups are too high they can buzz on the strings. To raise the bridge there are 2 adjustment screws that either can turn with a screwdriver or there will be a textured surface to turn it by hand.

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Thanks UGB, I tried to follow what you're saying but got a bit lost I'm afraid being totally unfamiliar with guitar terminology.
Have only just bought an old guitar and had to do some extensive restoration, and finally put on the new set of stings. I used a neat little mp3 to tune it, so haven't overtightened them.
Looking good this old SaeHan Acoustic/Electric but one position where I put my finger behind the fret, get this horrible tinny twang, presumably what you call a 'buzz'?

One rotten little spot and its the second fret down from the neck, and second string down. I have held the guitar up on its side and it appears to have around a matchstick space consistent along that point, second fret.
Doesn't do it anywhere else, just that one finger/spot. Like a dodgy note on a piano key....sick! LOL.

Would appreciate some advice, and pictures would help if at all possible?.....

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It sounds like you have a worn fret if I'm reading you right.

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Yeah thanks UGB, wondering now if it is easy to remove the culprit and build it up a tiny bit?

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Thanks for taking the time and posting such useful info UGB... Really appreciate it...!!!

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That would pulling the old fret, installing a new one, and then leveling and crowning. I've never done that. Being so close to the nut you'd want to pop the nut off to make all the leveling that much easier. I hope to get into some fret replacement later this year but it's about $200 worth of specialized tools I don't have yet.

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Thanks UGB, have removed the strings and looking along the 'neck?' notice it has a convex bow. Will read up on your other advice and consider adjusting the steel reinforcement. Looking at it, it appears to be what we here call and Allen key hex rod?.

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Thanks UGB, have removed the strings and looking along the 'neck?' notice it has a convex bow. Will read up on your other advice and consider adjusting the steel reinforcement. Looking at it, it appears to be what we here call and Allen key hex rod?.
Sounds like someone has been over zealous with that Allen Key Moonshine. If anything you should have a slight concave bow. Sometimes, you can get those frets out by heating them with a soldering iron, if the proper sort of glue was used in the first place. You need to be very careful not to splinter the surrounding timber because the part of the fretwire which goes into the timber has little 'barb like tangs' on it. Make sure you can get some replacement fretwire before you pull the old one. When you get a look at the new wire you will see what I mean about the barbs. I have heard of wetting the surrounding timber to reduce splintering, but I've never tried it. Once you've replaced the fret you can get away with using one of those diamond honers woodworkers use for sharpening chisels, a lot of care and some common sense. Don't forget to mask around the fret with something to protect the fingerboard. BTW, I wouldn't contemplate doing a home fret job on any guitar of value, but I've done a couple of old guitars, just for fun and it's worked out okay.

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Sighting the neck is best done w/the strings on and in tune. With the strings off a 'hump' in the neck would be normal.

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I eased off the allen key steel rod, sighted but no improvement. Used a long stainless steel ruler (straightedge) and its flat but not concave. Ouch! Replaced the strings and tuned, still that one spot where you get a nasty twang.
Time to take it up to the 'doctor' lol.
Thanks for the help UGB, know my limits before I stuff things up completely lol.

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Took the plunge and after loosening the strings and tying them back, applied heat to the 2 dodgy frets with the soldering iron and gently pried them out with a very small sharp screwdriver. No damage.
Placed a very small slither of wood from a toothpick and put it beneath the point where it needed to be raised ever so slightly. Put the frets back in dry (no glue) and gently tapped them back in with a piece of dowel and small hammer with my upper leg as a dolly.

Used the steel ruler as straightedge and voila...looking good, replaced the strings, tightened the allen key adjustment just a wee bit, tuned and no more buzzing anywhere.
Got lucky I suppose, thanks again for the fret removal tip, nice.

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You da man moonshine. Congrats.

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AT done said it all Moonshine ......

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