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Originally Posted by Cedric01
Would you please clarify what types of music where scales are not needed?
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Thats not actually what he said.
"the information needed to improvise competently and intelligently is found in scales but is not the scale itself."
It is correct, but it is also pretty obvious, if you play the Chord Em and then play the Em Pentatonic Scale, it will sound 'ok' nothing will sound wrong, but it certainly wouldn't be improvisation, since you are not improvising, you are just playing the set scale.
Picking out notes from a scale is improvising, knowing what notes will sound right and having a deep enough understanding that you know where you want to go next to get the sound you want, is improvising.
As for the deeper part saying scales and modes won't cut it, I don't know if you are right there Monk.
As far as am aware all that jazz encompasses, and this is the deepest of improv as far as I am concerned, is a better understanding of the scales and how they are built around chords, then playing those scales according to the chords being played behind it.