[Jean]

Very Funny 6string...

[si16]

As the old joke goes, scales are for fish.

[jasoncohen]

i know the pentatonic, minor, major, and blues scales...gotta convince my parents to let me buy plane talk so i can see what everyone else is talking about.

[guitarstrummin63]

the scales i use most often are minor and lydian, but sometimes i won't play in scale at all which is also fun to do

[Jean]

Originally Posted by jasoncohen

i know the pentatonic, minor, major, and blues scales...gotta convince my parents to let me buy plane talk so i can see what everyone else is talking about.

I know what you mean! My dad doesnt want to buy anout "miracle" guitar teaching course, but I know that plane talk will work, seeing how well Kirks free lessons work!

[WernHalen]

Thanks for letting alfcar guy know Missileman

[delondcosta27]

Originally Posted by Alfcarguy

I think he left some out like the natural minor scale, blues scale, harmonic minor scale,melodic minor scale,whole tone scale, exotic scales- Ehglimatic, Hirajoshi,Kumor, Oriental, Pelog,Kokin Joshi, P'yongio, Iwato,Cinese, Japansese, Egyptian,Scriabin,Hungarian,Gypsy,Hungarian Major,Romanian,Persian,Hindustan,Neopolitan Minor,Neopolitan Major,Overtone,Prometheus, Ritusen,Arabian Scale

Okay I am just jacking with you but those are real scales

lol
to name a few yes those are some....but there are million of scales,all with weird names (who makes this **** up??)
but there is a better way to do scales
MAKE UR OWN
fiddle around find out which notes u seem to like alot and go smoothly
and then just map those notes out on the guitar and play like any other scale
this way u'll b playin sumtin tht fits ur type of music and what sound u want
CHEERS!

[Rockerbob]

Off the top of my head I think I could find a G major and maybe a C major scale. I don't know scales. I play geometry.

[Ledhead V-2]

Originally Posted by allthumbs

Same thing as Dave. Never could get a handle on scales. Glad I left em behind.

I've been wondering about the importance of scales myself. I hear tell quite a few guitar gods swear by them (Page and Santana, to name just two off the top of my head) and practice them as a matter of routine. From what I gather, they're good starting points when soloing. Also, they seem relatively easy to do. Then again, I'm a mere beginner so what do I know?!



Bob

[allthumbs]

Originally Posted by Leadhead V-2

I've been wondering about the importance of scales myself. I hear tell quite a few guitar gods swear by them (Page and Santana, to name just two off the top of my head) and practice them as a matter of routine. From what I gather, they're good starting points when soloing. Also, they seem relatively easy to do. Then again, I'm a mere beginner so what do I know?!



Bob

Nothing wrong with learning scales "in context". What I mean is as Nelsonite says think of scales as embedded in a matrix of notes rather than as linear movement. The players who use scales melodically can do so because they are also playing notes that surround the scale.
You play what you practice so if you spend all your time running up and down scales,that is what you will play. When learning scales,in my opinion, you should put equal time into the notes surrounding the scales so that you have more freedom of tonal movement and don't get locked into fixed patterns.

[Ledhead V-2]

Originally Posted by allthumbs

Nothing wrong with learning scales "in context". What I mean is as Nelsonite says think of scales as embedded in a matrix of notes rather than as linear movement. The players who use scales melodically can do so because they are also playing notes that surround the scale.
You play what you practice so if you spend all your time running up and down scales,that is what you will play. When learning scales,in my opinion, you should put equal time into the notes surrounding the scales so that you have more freedom of tonal movement and don't get locked into fixed patterns.

I think I gotcha...

In other words, if you're going to bother to learn scales in the first place, you should feel free to experiment with them...kind of let your fingers have some loose and free play?!



Bob

[allthumbs]

Exactly. Think your way through what you want to say musicly rather than ripping through a fixed pattern using muscle memory. Nothing worse, to my ear, than listening to a shreder ripping through pure scales for a couple of minutes.

[Kirk Lorange]

Originally Posted by Rockerbob

Off the top of my head I think I could find a G major and maybe a C major scale. I don't know scales. I play geometry.

That's a great way of putting RB ... playing geometry. I love it.

[MontanaSlim]

I know Minor Pent and the Blues scale. I've played those in all five positions as well
as a couple of patterns running up the fretboard.

I have little or no idea how to improvise or play a solo with them or create a decent blues lick with them in spite of running through those scales 1000 times.

I'm planning on changing that.

[Ledhead V-2]

Originally Posted by MontanaSlim

I know Minor Pent and the Blues scale. I've played those in all five positions as well
as a couple of patterns running up the fretboard.

I have little or no idea how to improvise or play a solo with them or create a decent blues lick with them in spite of running through those scales 1000 times.

I'm planning on changing that.

Speaking of soloing and scales, "Guitar World" included a chart of "essential chords and scales -- without any crap thrown in" (their words) in the latest issue.

They list only five scales (A minor pentatonic, A major pentatonic, A blues, A major scale, and A natural minor) and this is what they have to say about them:

"There are thousands of scales! GW has stripped away all of the advanced (and sometimes unnecessary) scales to leave you with a handful of truly useful examples. These scales have seen the most famous guitarists safely through their careers. Zakk Wylde, Slash, and Jimmy Page use just the first three as the basis of most of their solos."

Interesting, eh?



Led