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Originally Posted by stringslinger
It seems at some point, metal stops being metal and is "hard rock", then that seems to morph into "rock".
Interresting how stuff that when I was young was called metal, but now they would call it hard rock. To me, grunge is metal, anything with lots of distortion is metal. Course even Bon Jovi would fall under this definition.
There are such labels as speed metal and death metal. Who can keep up with it all?...
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Don't forget black metal, industrial metal, grindcore, and all the other fuzzy, ill-defined sub-genres. IMO, music is much "over-classified" these days....I don't want to debate or waste time thinking about things like whether Rush is a 'rock' band, a 'power trio' or a 'prog rock' band - I really don't care. I like their music, and that's all that matters.
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Originally Posted by stringslinger
...I hear people all the time saying that Metallica is hard rock, not metal. Somehow, they have lost their edge with many people, and many don't even consider them metal anymore...
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To be honest, what I usually think when I hear Metallica anymore is "cliche". The first thing that usually comes to my mind when I hear a 'Tallica song is Beavis and Butt-Head headbanging with the "rock fingers" in the air yelling "Yess! Yessssss!"
I know they were kinda one of the pioneers of the genre and I guess I'd still classify them as a "metal" band - but they've become so mainstream that they've lost their edge (IMO). I feel the same way about Bob Seger and REO Speedwagon (among others) in the "rock" or "classic rock" genre - so safely middle-of-the-road mainstream type music that they bore me for the most part.
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Originally Posted by stringslinger
...It is interesting about how different people view rock/hard rock/metal....
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I think classifying most bands in any particular genre is an exercise in futility at best. Led Zeppelin would be a "rock" or "classic rock" band - or would they? They did a lot of songs that would fit much better in the blues genre, so are they a blues band? How about a "blues rock" band? Well, "Achilles' Last Stand wasn't very bluesy - in fact, it rocked pretty hard. So did "The Ocean" - so maybe they're really a "hard rock" band! You could do this same exercise with many bands - there are few that fit snugly and comfortably into any particular slot.
It would be real hard for me to clearly define what I'd consider the difference between "rock" and "hard rock". Metal is a little easier - it goes "chuggachuggachugga, wheedlydeedly, YEEEAAAARRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!, wheedlywheedlydeedlydeedlydeeeeeee, chuggachugga".
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Originally Posted by stringslinger
....and even country today is sounding more rock/hard rock then ever before.
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Yep. Even country used to be easy - it went "twang, twaaang, my wife left me, my truck broke down and I went to the honky-tonk, twaang, <pedal steel sound>". There's a lot more variety in "modern country", or "alt.country", or whatever other fuzzy, ill-defined sub-genres people have made up for it today.....you hear almost as many Les Pauls as you do Teles, and there's as much distortion as a lot of "rock" or "hard rock" bands. Sometimes the only difference between country and rock is the cowboy hats and southern accents (real or otherwise)....you've even got some that don't wear hats, don't have accents, and have as many piercings and tats as the rocker dudes! It's all good to me - call it what you want to and classify it as you wish.....if it gets my toe tapping and is fun to listen to, that's good enough.