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Old April 15th, 2007
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Originally Posted by jimbeaux View Post
I finally found the answer to my question, which was:

a) Why does my effects modeler sound different/better thru headphones than thru my guitar amp?

b) How can I make amplified sound from my effects modeler as "good" as headphone sound?

If this has perplexed anyone else, the answer is at:

http://forum.thestompbox.net/showthread.php?t=4634
Yeah, I agree with the guy. I'm an old school guy who never thought he'd by a MFX unit, but I did anyway. I got a V-Amp 2. I really love it. I had my doubts that they could emulate such great effects and cab/spkr sounds, but it does a great job.

I bought the thing because I play on occasion at this church that doesn't want amps on stage. Personally I don't like that. You can lose alot of feel playing live without the amp monitor. But the situation is working because my rig sounds great through the house PA and I get a monitor signal on stage. So I get the same thing as having the amp there. I think the V Amp 2 sounds just fine.

I've also used it to record. It's still not the same as putting a mic in front of a speaker cab in my opinion, but it does the trick and doesn't sound half bad.

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Originally Posted by jimbeux
a) Why does my effects modeler sound different/better thru headphones than thru my guitar amp?
I know you got the answer. But just in case anyone's wondering, the technical reason (other than because the signal is being colored by that preamp and cab) is that in the headphone situation the MFX sounds are then sent to a small operational (op amp, a bunch of transistors on a small chip) amplifier in the unit and then hooked up to the headphone pot. So there's your power amplifer sound. Not only that, it's sent in stereo. None of us often hook up our rig in stereo.

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Originally Posted by jimbeaux
b) How can I make amplified sound from my effects modeler as "good" as headphone sound?
Apart from playing live and having a FoH mixer to play with, you can sit in your room right now and get this good sound. The basis of what this guy is saying is a practice that's been around forever: send the preamp signal from your rig to a power amp. So, with a modeler you have a great preamp signal. If you can plug the output of the MFX, preferably outputs, into any line level input of any amplifer, voila. There's great possibilities: any stereo system. Even with many of the all-in-one type of systems, they all have a L and R aux input. Get to radio shack and adapt your 1/4 phone plugs (Tip Sleeve) to RCA (phono) plugs and have a blast.

I don't know if there are any of these flat response full range systems on the market he's talking about other than throwing together something (amp plus a cabinet), but hey, you just made one if you're using a stereo system. Or how about plugging the guitar into the computer after the MFX? Listen on your computer speakers. Not the best scenario, but...preamp --> amp is the ticket. A modeler into a guitar amp is essentially a preamp --> another preamp --> amp.


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