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April 13th, 2007
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Thanks PPE,
I have looked at the first video but haven't had the opportunity to see the others and that hand position didn't look like what I have seen and not what I use (although I don't use a pick very often due to lack of control). I plan to try and see if it helps.
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April 13th, 2007
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Tis not the way I hold my pick...
Remember, wherever you go... there you are.
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May 25th, 2007
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I putted yes cuz, I love tos shred, and I once checked with a beat machine howe many notes I could play, and it was 8 notes a second, and with tapping 10 notes a second 
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May 26th, 2007
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For all the above reasons. No. 
I miss the comfort in being sad
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May 26th, 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marinoFret
Is it possible to play something with feel at 200-250 bpm (4 notes per beat)? I don't think so...
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Sorry but this is your opinion only and not a truthful fact.
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May 26th, 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty22
Thats a No for me too...
Really dont have that much interest in doing so either. I would much rather play a slow melodic solo, than a barrage of so many notes that you dont have time to listen to them..
But thats just me
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Sorry, but here again this is opinion. Just because you can't "listen" to them, doesn't mean there aren't many other peolpe who find alot of melody/harmony/feel in such solos.
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May 26th, 2007
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Look, I'm going to be honest with you. You will find many so called "feel" players who will down rate "shred" guitar saying that it isn't melodic or its to fast etc etc...
The fact is, IMHO to make a fast melodic solo is an acomplishment, not a hack. Just because something is slow doesn't make it melodic or have "feeling" to it... just like something fast isn't always melodic with feeling. I would say Stevie Ray Vaughan plays VERY fast at times with TONS of feel and melody, but so does Joe Satriani! They just play different, but both have mastered the guitar enough to play extremely fast with feel and melody.
It takes practice practice practice to get to shred speed, AND EVEN MORE PRACTICE TO MAKE IT HAVE GOOD FEEL AND MELODY. Just because you can play at 200bmp doesn't mean it sounds good!
You just have to practice the basic picking and fingering excercises until you can play them at 200bmp. I'll be having a series about this and how to make such solos melodic and have feeling.
For proof that music can be played really fast and have melody and feeling, then just listen to CLASSICAL music! Where does flight of the bumblebee come from?
What about Flamenco guitar? Those guys are blazing fast!
I guess classical and flamenco have no feeling or melody? Right... and Steve Vai plays the flute. 
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May 27th, 2007
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May 27th, 2007
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/shred_guitar
That clears things up?
"If we built a ride everyone wanted to ride, that's called an elevator - and that's not an amusement ride." - Stan Checketts, S&S Power
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May 27th, 2007
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YES I CAN SHRED.
Theres nothing wrong with playing shred style guitar. Paul Gilbert explain this better than me. Here it goes:
If you are a guitar Player:
Shred guitar prresents one deadly conflict that all shredders must resolve in their own manner. This is the fact that the goal of shredding is to play guitar with ferocious speed, deadly accuracy, piercing tone and crushing intensity. But in order to acomplish these goals, must use small, delicate, controlled and patiently honed motions that are generated from oneīs wee fingers.
I want to demonstarte the reality of this conflict. Picture in your mind the late 80īs heavy metal guitarists: tight leather pants, chrome chains, skulls, pointy electric guitars. Only the guitar strap is pulled up to baby-bib, jazz guitar height. If guitar posing was a hairstyle, this would be the mullet. Is shred guitar doomed to the cultural shame and ridicule of the mullet? Only time and the new generation of shredders will tell. But among the fashion chaos those ferocious notes will continue to provide a fantastic, face-melting soundtrack.
If you are a litener:
Do you ever just get a little bit bored of comfortably numb by Pink Floyd and its perfect guitar solo? Sure, its perfect. Itīs melodic. It fits the song. It makes you say, "Ooh...ahhh...thatīs smooth!" But it does not make you jump out of your seat, stick your head into the speaker, and say, "HOLY SH/%&%&!!!! WHO PLAYED THAT SOLO!?"
And the best stuff by Van Halen, Yngwie Malmsteen and Dream Theater will do just that. A glorious shot of adrenaline is yours every time some high quality shred is in your ears. Seek it out and enjoy the shred!
If you are a Parent, Friend, Teacher or Bandmember:
Forget it. Once he/she has gotten into shred there is no cure. On the surface, your love one may be patient, obedient and willing to compromise. But on the inside, deep within the soul, the spirit of shred will grow until one day they will stand upon a lighted stage and play 16th note triplets with such clarity, skill and mightiness that all who behold will gaze in awe and say, "look how low their strap is! I canīt beliebe they can still Shred!"
FOR ME:
My serious definition of shred is simply this:
Shred is the attempt to play your guitar very, very, very, very well.
Sometimes fast, sometimes slow, but not as a hobby, not casually, not as a background music. To SHRED is to love the SUPREME beauty that is the electric guitar and give it all youīve got because what could be more fun than playing your electric guitar?!
Now go out there and change the world, you future shred gods!!!
Paul Gilbert"
For GT
For me is not just shred. The fact that you can actually play shred tells you a lot of stuff. The 1st one, the fact that you are now ABLE to play WHATEVER YOU WANT IN GUITAR.
Many guys in this forum asked me constantly how many songs i know to play cause i recorded so much stuff and fast. I swear you guys, most of the stuff i upload is songs that i wanted to play and most of them i NEVER played before. So for me it gives me the ability to play whats on my head and transpose it to the guitar.
The SKILLS to play WHAT I WANT. Its so horrible to wish and moan about a song and cant be able to reproduce it yourself on the freetboard.
So, stop making ridicule arguments about why you dont want to get better on guitar. If you love the instrument give it the respect it deserves. Practice and then, one day, youll become a higher musician that can play whatever he wants....... and yeah.... even shred too. GT
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May 29th, 2007
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please explain shredding means, is it full on heavy metal fast?
i am just an old slide blues player in my comfort zone= slow
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May 29th, 2007
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ok i posted then read the meaning of shred oops!
whilst banging my head is not my scene, i can certainly appreciate the skill needed.
pursue your passion
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June 4th, 2007
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whats shreddin
jus playin like fast stuff  ?
like bullet style??
hopes to one day get good enough to start a band =]
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June 4th, 2007
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reads definition
so i say no
not yet

want to
its the style i like
to be able to play like that
recently learnt hand of blood though
well proud =]
hopes to one day get good enough to start a band =]
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June 6th, 2007
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I love metal and shredding, but no I can't shred. I get bored alot of times with very slow solo's and stuff, but I wouldn't want to limit my playing to just shredding. I usually do a bit of both, but I wouldnt call myself a shredder. 
I miss the comfort in being sad
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