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Barre Chords for Beginners and Beyond

Barre Chords for Beginners and Beyond

It's time to create a lesson-thread where all folks of experience can help our brothers and sisters who are new to learn and play and use barre chords. Such a dirty word at times and hard work for those who are starting out. But fear not! We're glad to help. Here ya go.

What are Barre Chords?

They are chord formations that can move up and down the fretboard. Stop here and open this lesson to check out the basics of them.

Keep that lesson open so we can take advantage of the great graphics that Kirk has on his lessons. Notice the first graphic you see: The E chord form moving up the neck two frets. This is what it's all about. At this point, we're only going to concentrate on two forms: The E major and the A major forms. The variations follow these easily but we need to get a grip on the basic principles first. We need visual anchors.

Let's use the fretboard map for both anchors. Keep this fretboard page open for reference, but for simplicity sake I'll repeat the E and A strings here.

0........1...........2..........3..........4..........5..........6..........7...........8...........9..........10.........11........12.........13........14.........

A ||-A#/Bb-|---B---|---C---|-C#/Db-|---D---|-D#/Eb-|---E---|---F---|-F#/Gb-|---G---|-G#/Ab-|---A---|-A#/Bb-|---B---|--

E ||---F----|F#/Gb-|---G---|-G#/Ab-|---A---|-A#/Bb-|---B---|---C---|-C#/Db-|---D---|-D#/Eb-|---E---|---F----|-F#/Gb|--

If this doesn't translate well for you in your monitor, just refer to the E and A strings on the fretboard map page.

The E form Barre

Starting with the top string or the low E, the open string is of course an E note. This is the bass note of the open E chord and the visual anchor for the E form barre chord. When you first learn to play the open E chord, you usually learn it by using the index, middle and ring fingers and it looks like this:


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Now play the same chord using the middle, ring and pinky fingers.


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What happens if you slide this formation up one fret and barre your index finger across all of the strings? Well, what's the first fretted note of the E string? An F of course, so it's the F major chord. And so on up the neck.


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Now open up the E Form Major page and check out how the rest of the E form barre chords work up the fingerboard.

The A form Barre

Starting with the next string, the A is of course an A note. This is the bass note of the open A chord and the visual anchor for the A form barre chord. When you first learn to play the open A chord, you often learn it by using the index, middle and ring fingers.


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This isn't always so, but go with me on this one for now.

Now play the same chord using the middle, ring and pinky fingers.


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What happens if you slide this formation up one fret and barre your index finger across all of the strings to the A string? Well, what's the first fretted note of the A string? A Bb of course. So it's a Bb chord. And so on up the neck.


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Now open up the A Form Major page and check out how the rest of the A form barre chords work up the fingerboard.

Ok, ok, there are variances on how the A and the A form barre chords are formed. Notice in the variations on the A form barre pictures below that I'm really only reaching over to the fret the A string and not barreing the rest. Work smarter, not harder! Sometimes your fingers just can't do any of these things. Here's another variation on the open A, and this is often used when playing electric.



And here's a couple of those variations on the A form barre.



"A form barre 2" comes in handy when you want to learn that rock and roll move.



To Sum it Up, Let's Talk...

Take a look at the photos...notice that I'm only barreing the strings that aren't covered by the other fingers. Take the E form barre for example, for a G chord: 355433. I only need to barre the 3's!! The middle, ring and pinky fingers are taking care of frets 5 and 4! This could make a difference in how you approach the form. For my hand specifically: as I barre across with the index finger, I go across as far as I can (see the third pic) so the B and bottom E strings are near the crease of the finger and hand. That way, I use the fleshy part of the finger to barre those strings. This leaves the fleshy part of finger near the tip to barre the top E.

Be sure to check out all the links under Chords and check out the chord pictorials and chord finders here at this site.

There's much to talk about as far as playing barre chords. One area you can work with is discovering that it's ok to play partial barre chords. There are many players who can't play full barre chords, and so they stick with partials. No problem. Often times partials are desirable. Let's talk about those.

Let's talk about the different ways you play the A forms. What are some of your tips on learning and playing barre chords? Where's the thumb supposed to be? Are there links to other threads from this site about barre chords? What happens when my hand starts cramping?

This lesson can also be found in my lesson forum. For a list of the lessons, click the Lessons for the Beginner and Beyond link below.


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This is a really good explanation of how to use and play bar chords and hopefully it will be of great use to me. But just to be honest with you, I have tried, tried and tried to learn to make bar chords. I just cannot make a clean bar chord. I've practiced for hours, day after day and weeek after week but still can't do it. I've read every instruction on how to make them but I can't press down 6 strings with my left index finger. I have long slender fingers and it should be no problem but so far no luck. I'm not a beginning guitarist either. What's the secret, if there is one?
Hi GeneC--

Compare the action (string height) on your guitar to another one. Maybe a new one in a store. See if this might be part of the problem.

Another thing to think about: when making the full barre chords, you're not thinking about pressing down all six strings. You need to think only about pressing down those that need to be played!

So, for an F chord, E barre formation at the first fret:

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Only the 1's are what you need to concentrate on barreing.

For a C chord, A formation in the third fret:

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Only the 1's need consideration (well, the barre of the 3's is another story). But also think about just playing the A string on this barre, and not always worrying about playing the E string. I mean, it's a good goal to be able to learn to play all strings, but only play the string that you need to play.

Another secret is to learn to play only partial barres.

Steve


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This is a really good explanation of how to use and play bar chords and hopefully it will be of great use to me. But just to be honest with you, I have tried, tried and tried to learn to make bar chords. I just cannot make a clean bar chord. I've practiced for hours, day after day and weeek after week but still can't do it. I've read every instruction on how to make them but I can't press down 6 strings with my left index finger. I have long slender fingers and it should be no problem but so far no luck. I'm not a beginning guitarist either. What's the secret, if there is one?
Let us see a photo of you performing some E minor and major shaped bar chord from different angles if it's possible. I'd like to help.

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Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread, I have found it very helpful. I've been avoiding barre chords for months. Every now and again I tried a few using brute force, then more brute force, then brute force with cursing. It never worked. I can now make them ring out up and down the neck but I'm still struggling to do chord changes. There dosen't seem to be much dexterity in my pinky. It just does whatever it wants. I'm not even sure if its my pinky anymore. Anyone have any ideas, finger exercises or anything?

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