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Barre Chords for Beginners and Beyond

Barre Chords for Beginners and Beyond

It's time to create a lesson-thread where all folks of experience can help our brothers and sisters who are new to learn and play and use barre chords. Such a dirty word at times and hard work for those who are starting out. But fear not! We're glad to help. Here ya go.

What are Barre Chords?

They are chord formations that can move up and down the fretboard. Stop here and open this lesson to check out the basics of them.

Keep that lesson open so we can take advantage of the great graphics that Kirk has on his lessons. Notice the first graphic you see: The E chord form moving up the neck two frets. This is what it's all about. At this point, we're only going to concentrate on two forms: The E major and the A major forms. The variations follow these easily but we need to get a grip on the basic principles first. We need visual anchors.

Let's use the fretboard map for both anchors. Keep this fretboard page open for reference, but for simplicity sake I'll repeat the E and A strings here.

0........1...........2..........3..........4..........5..........6..........7...........8...........9..........10.........11........12.........13........14.........

A ||-A#/Bb-|---B---|---C---|-C#/Db-|---D---|-D#/Eb-|---E---|---F---|-F#/Gb-|---G---|-G#/Ab-|---A---|-A#/Bb-|---B---|--

E ||---F----|F#/Gb-|---G---|-G#/Ab-|---A---|-A#/Bb-|---B---|---C---|-C#/Db-|---D---|-D#/Eb-|---E---|---F----|-F#/Gb|--

If this doesn't translate well for you in your monitor, just refer to the E and A strings on the fretboard map page.

The E form Barre

Starting with the top string or the low E, the open string is of course an E note. This is the bass note of the open E chord and the visual anchor for the E form barre chord. When you first learn to play the open E chord, you usually learn it by using the index, middle and ring fingers and it looks like this:


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Now play the same chord using the middle, ring and pinky fingers.


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What happens if you slide this formation up one fret and barre your index finger across all of the strings? Well, what's the first fretted note of the E string? An F of course, so it's the F major chord. And so on up the neck.


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Now open up the E Form Major page and check out how the rest of the E form barre chords work up the fingerboard.

The A form Barre

Starting with the next string, the A is of course an A note. This is the bass note of the open A chord and the visual anchor for the A form barre chord. When you first learn to play the open A chord, you often learn it by using the index, middle and ring fingers.


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This isn't always so, but go with me on this one for now.

Now play the same chord using the middle, ring and pinky fingers.


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What happens if you slide this formation up one fret and barre your index finger across all of the strings to the A string? Well, what's the first fretted note of the A string? A Bb of course. So it's a Bb chord. And so on up the neck.


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Now open up the A Form Major page and check out how the rest of the A form barre chords work up the fingerboard.

Ok, ok, there are variances on how the A and the A form barre chords are formed. Notice in the variations on the A form barre pictures below that I'm really only reaching over to the fret the A string and not barreing the rest. Work smarter, not harder! Sometimes your fingers just can't do any of these things. Here's another variation on the open A, and this is often used when playing electric.



And here's a couple of those variations on the A form barre.



"A form barre 2" comes in handy when you want to learn that rock and roll move.



To Sum it Up, Let's Talk...

Take a look at the photos...notice that I'm only barreing the strings that aren't covered by the other fingers. Take the E form barre for example, for a G chord: 355433. I only need to barre the 3's!! The middle, ring and pinky fingers are taking care of frets 5 and 4! This could make a difference in how you approach the form. For my hand specifically: as I barre across with the index finger, I go across as far as I can (see the third pic) so the B and bottom E strings are near the crease of the finger and hand. That way, I use the fleshy part of the finger to barre those strings. This leaves the fleshy part of finger near the tip to barre the top E.

Be sure to check out all the links under Chords and check out the chord pictorials and chord finders here at this site.

There's much to talk about as far as playing barre chords. One area you can work with is discovering that it's ok to play partial barre chords. There are many players who can't play full barre chords, and so they stick with partials. No problem. Often times partials are desirable. Let's talk about those.

Let's talk about the different ways you play the A forms. What are some of your tips on learning and playing barre chords? Where's the thumb supposed to be? Are there links to other threads from this site about barre chords? What happens when my hand starts cramping?

This lesson can also be found in my lesson forum. For a list of the lessons, click the Lessons for the Beginner and Beyond link below.


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I was starting to think I had too much relief so checked using Ultimate Garage Band's method. Spot on.

I went back to try the F chord again and had it a few times. What's frustrating here is that rolling my finger just a hair this way or that gives me a buzz. If I can't barre just 2 little strings I'm in trouble.

Try it again tonight.

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Practise further up the neck and then work your way back down to the nut when you're more comfortable.

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Practise further up the neck and then work your way back down to the nut when you're more comfortable.
That's what I did. Picked it up in another thread. Thanks.

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It just takes practice, Bluesyzep - every guitarist has been in your shoes at some point.

Brute force isn't the answer - if you squeeze too hard you'll just fatigue your hand/wrist, and you'll also mess up the sound of the chord by squeezing the notes sharp.


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Awesome!
A question: do I use my index finger to bar ON the fret, or right just before the fret?
Also; is there a barre C chord that can be played with 6 strings?
I know of the 6 string C that uses four fingers:

|0|-|-|
|1|-|-|
|0|-|-|
|2|-|-|
|3|-|-|
|3|-|-|

How do I barre that?


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Get your index as close to the fret as possible but not actually on top of it.

Here's two 6 string barre chord versions of C :-

e 8
B 8
G 9
D 10
A 10
E 8

e 8
B 5
G 5
D 5
A 7
E 8

The first version is quite common, the second version is much more difficult.

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Another C barre chord (probably the easiest one) is the 'A' form:

E|3
B|5
G|5
D|5
A|3
E|3


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Great post solid. I need stuff like this. I want to be a good technician as well.

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I know of the 6 string C that uses four fingers:

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|1|-|-|
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|2|-|-|
|3|-|-|
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Another C barre chord (probably the easiest one) is the 'A' form:

E|3
B|5
G|5
D|5
A|3
E|3
If we're absolutely strict about it both of these chords are C/G. It's only a slight difference though.

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Just noticed when I barre The G string gets caught in the crease of my index finger (no pun intended)... any ideas how to fix this without gorilla gripping the neck?

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Just noticed when I barre The G string gets caught in the crease of my index finger (no pun intended)... any ideas how to fix this without gorilla gripping the neck?
Move your barre finger up or down a fraction.


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Move your barre finger up or down a fraction.
yeah i was hoping for another solution... ugh feels so weird old habits die hard I guess

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Try rolling your barring finger onto its' side a bit so you're using the side of your finger rather than the flat.


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You could also try the other stuff in combo with 'reaching' just a bit farther.


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I've been having the same problem. I haven't come to a full barre lesson yet but try to full barre the first fret just to see if I can do it. The second and third strings really give me hell. Not a lesson I'm looking forward. I got the F chord bar down finally but that's a big difference from a full barre.

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